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Post by phantom on Aug 21, 2007 12:16:56 GMT -6
The thread about the player who died got me curious. Since I'm guessing that few if any youth league teams will have one and all college teams will, let's keep this about school teams. If my assumption is wrong, feel free to correct me.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Aug 21, 2007 12:30:17 GMT -6
We didn't have one last year due to contactual issues but have a full time certified trainer this season.
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Post by ajreaper on Aug 21, 2007 12:35:53 GMT -6
Love the reference to the "Junction Boys"
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Post by coachjd on Aug 21, 2007 13:38:16 GMT -6
Whats a trainer???
I hope it does not take a severe injury for our school board to realize we need one!!!
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Post by coachbw on Aug 21, 2007 13:51:15 GMT -6
We have one for games only, we are on our own at practice. Interestingly enough I was also hired as the head coach without any formal first aid training. Not sure how the district let that one go.
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Post by airman on Aug 21, 2007 18:42:13 GMT -6
athletic trainer through the hospital. game night a doctor or PA ,PT and AT.
AT is also a EMT which is nice.
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Post by midlineqb on Aug 21, 2007 18:52:53 GMT -6
We don't have one for practice. Not sure if we have one for games, or if a Doctor is there, since I was made a part of the staff a week and half ago.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2007 19:27:18 GMT -6
Our trainer is the best one going. I'd put him up against anyone. He's awesome diagnosing injury, etc. gets kids healed, and we know that if he says a kid can't practice then it's legit. He's no wimp about it.
Every day (or 3 times a day during 3-a-days) we get an updated injury form with his original diagnoses, expected time out, and guidelines. Very, very good.
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Post by poweriguy on Aug 21, 2007 19:28:11 GMT -6
The last school I was at, we didn't have a trainer. Heck we had trouble just getting coaches. We all had to be certified in first aid, so we got a one day course in first aid and CPR. But as far as treatment for injuries, if it was a small one, we usually treated it ourselves with what we learned from first aid. But anything more serious we had the kid's parents take him to the local clinic to get checked out.
As far as taping, I had to learn from a training book I got off amazon.com. Actually I'm pretty good at taping now. Just take my time and NO WRINKLES!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2007 19:32:27 GMT -6
Just do a Spartan wrap on all the ankles. Holds well and makes the contours rounder so no bad wrinkles. Of course they're not very flexible and Elasticon costs a lot.
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Post by amikell on Aug 21, 2007 20:03:53 GMT -6
we have an ATC at practice every day and at games and a doc on the sidelines for home games. we actually have two ATCs at school, but only one is the school's actual paid ATC (my wife is the other one, she now teaches biology). We have the ATC, but we all also have to be trained in 1st aid.
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Aug 21, 2007 20:09:54 GMT -6
We have an orthopedic clinic in a neighboring town that contracts with the 5-6 towns in our area. They send a trainer to the participating schools twice a week (we get the same one all year), send one to all home games, and send one to most away games. It is a really nice deal and not too spendy for the school. If we have any injuries from Friday nights, our players can go to their clinic free of charge the next morning for an evaluation.
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Post by epcoach99 on Aug 23, 2007 8:57:44 GMT -6
We had a part time AT a few years ago but the district decided it was not cost effective. Most days in practice we have a nurse practitioner on the field helping coach defense but he is not always around. Like someone else mentioned, I hope it dose not take a major incident for the knuckleheads on the schoolboard and in admin to wise up.
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Post by toprowguy on Aug 23, 2007 9:31:53 GMT -6
We have two full time trainers who work with all the sports programs. On game night our team doctors come also. We also have a EMT on our football staff.
I couldn't image coaching at a school without a trainer, its the best thing ever because all we have to do is coach.
"Coach, my foot hurts" Go see the trainer. "Coach, my finger hurts" Go see the trainer.
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Post by CoachDaniel on Aug 23, 2007 10:43:30 GMT -6
We have a certified trainer who is also a PE teacher, so he knows the kids. He has also gotten the nickname of "Dr. Doom" because for the past two years most of his initial evaluations have been catastrophic...and completely wrong. Which is good, we know when he says "Broken collarbone," we can expect the kid back tomorrow.
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Post by lionhart on Aug 23, 2007 11:47:48 GMT -6
we have a full-time AT at our school, who is paid according to the teacher salary scale. she is there every practice and all games. home games we have a team doctor on hand and an ambulance and 2 EMT's also.
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Post by toprowguy on Aug 23, 2007 20:24:34 GMT -6
Talked to our trainer today and he said in NJ 80% of high schools have a full time trainer.
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Post by coachstu on Aug 24, 2007 0:27:05 GMT -6
The trainer is an imperative part of the program Ours is a woman, and she is the very best about diagnosis, and a strict disciplinarian when it comes to rehab. If she says they cant go, they don't go...period.
Every school should have one on staff, no question.
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Post by ocinaz on Aug 24, 2007 0:40:30 GMT -6
We don't have one, and I don't know what it's going to take for us to get one...AD asks every year, admin says nope....
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Post by phantom on Aug 24, 2007 12:03:46 GMT -6
We're lucky. We have one, as do the other three HSs in our district. The other district in our league has five schools and only two have trainers. There are two reasons for that. The state passed a law that says that you can only hire a certified trainer. You don't have to have a trainer but, if you do, he or she has to be certified. Our old trainer, a volunteer EMT who teaches CPR classes but isn't certified, had to quit because of the law.
The second reason they can't get trainers is because they're cheap. We get our trainers on contract with a physical therapy company. They aren't inexpensive. The other schools want to hire individually and they want to pay what amounts to a coaching supplement each season. It's hard to find good, certified people for that money.
Ahh, gotta love the school boards.
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 24, 2007 12:10:16 GMT -6
We have been working with a local university for the past 6 years. They have a Master's program in Athletic training and they place their grad students with local high schools. We pay $18,000 for a certified trainer (BS + National Certification) to be at all practices and home games (football also gets road games) for a year. Trainers are with us for 2 years and then we get a new one. So far it has been a great experience for us and well worth the cost.
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Post by phantom on Aug 24, 2007 12:13:08 GMT -6
That's about what we pay.
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