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Post by carookie on Feb 10, 2014 13:15:12 GMT -6
Some recent posts have led me to believe that there is a general consensus in attitude, coaching style, and general beliefs amongst coaches on this site. The interesting thing is, at least from my perspective, is not all coaches are the same way. So I started thinking, "are there certain types of coaches that gravitate to a forum like this, or maybe we have rubbed off on each other a lot?"
In any case, there are certain qualities that I think coaches on this site tend to display more often than other coaches (I'll list some below) I was wondering if you all felt the same way.
Coaches here tend to be less yellers and more teachers. In that same vein we tend to be less concerned with rah-rah type motivation, or fire and brimstone type speeches. Often times we are the computer savy one on the staff. We are less concerned with plays and more with technique (at least as far as defensive coaches go)
There are others I have noticed, but would rather see if others agree, and if they feel the same way.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 10, 2014 13:18:17 GMT -6
We are trying to keep learning
A lot of coaches I meet in person and have worked with are so set in their ways... Any new idea is blasphemous The world is flat, if you go to the end you'll fall off
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Post by coachphillip on Feb 10, 2014 13:36:50 GMT -6
I agree with both sentiments. There does tend to be a certain "type" of coach on this board. Coachbdud is right in that we all want to improve and to do that means we have to admit that what we are doing might be wrong. Not every coach can do that. Those who can, tend to have the very qualities you're mentioning.
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Post by tothehouse on Feb 10, 2014 15:02:35 GMT -6
The wise migrate to Coach Huey.
The know-it-alls watch "First Take" LOL
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Post by bigcroz on Feb 10, 2014 15:36:25 GMT -6
The wise migrate to Coach Huey. The know-it-alls watch "First Take" LOL You mean to say that I shouldn't take pointers from Stephan A. and/or Skip?
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Post by tothehouse on Feb 10, 2014 15:51:46 GMT -6
And I just "liked" my own post. Where does that put me?
But seriously. Gather up as much knowledge from as many sources as possible. As much as your "sponge" can retain.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 10, 2014 15:59:30 GMT -6
I think the best part of this site is just talking to others and getting the creative juices flowing
many of the posts i've written have been about a new idea I had and was considering and just looking to see what others thought about it
we are able to share ideas, our own experiences, occasionally there is a little argument about the best way but for the most part we all understand there's a million ways to accomplish something... do whatever works for you
we are all at least open to thinking about doing things differently
i recently met a new coach and shared our pistol hand off mechanics... and he flipped out about what we do after the mesh i got it from coach grab but i have seen a ton of people do it
we put the ball on the hip flexor, show open hand looking back at the Rb for 2 vertical steps, then we boot
this was "foreign" to this new coach i was speaking with and he instantly went into defense mode... we can't do that, that's so wrong, QB will never get the laces back ... the sky was falling
he doesn't strike me as a coachhuey type of coach
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Post by coach2013 on Feb 10, 2014 16:03:49 GMT -6
Some recent posts have led me to believe that there is a general consensus in attitude, coaching style, and general beliefs amongst coaches on this site. The interesting thing is, at least from my perspective, is not all coaches are the same way. So I started thinking, "are there certain types of coaches that gravitate to a forum like this, or maybe we have rubbed off on each other a lot?" In any case, there are certain qualities that I think coaches on this site tend to display more often than other coaches (I'll list some below) I was wondering if you all felt the same way. Coaches here tend to be less yellers and more teachers. In that same vein we tend to be less concerned with rah-rah type motivation, or fire and brimstone type speeches. Often times we are the computer savy one on the staff. We are less concerned with plays and more with technique (at least as far as defensive coaches go) There are others I have noticed, but would rather see if others agree, and if they feel the same way. That's the internet today. If you cant get along with one group, you go find another. This forum has had some pretty good flame wars over the years and though theres like 450000000000000000000 members, the same 40 guys do all the posts.
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Post by cqmiller on Feb 10, 2014 16:06:14 GMT -6
Some recent posts have led me to believe that there is a general consensus in attitude, coaching style, and general beliefs amongst coaches on this site. The interesting thing is, at least from my perspective, is not all coaches are the same way. So I started thinking, "are there certain types of coaches that gravitate to a forum like this, or maybe we have rubbed off on each other a lot?" In any case, there are certain qualities that I think coaches on this site tend to display more often than other coaches (I'll list some below) I was wondering if you all felt the same way. Coaches here tend to be less yellers and more teachers. In that same vein we tend to be less concerned with rah-rah type motivation, or fire and brimstone type speeches. Often times we are the computer savy one on the staff. We are less concerned with plays and more with technique (at least as far as defensive coaches go) There are others I have noticed, but would rather see if others agree, and if they feel the same way. I would say that in general, people willing to seek out alternative ways of doing things than the way they learned or have always done, means that they are willing to change and do what they believe is best for their athletes. Most guys on the board are not here to put anyone else down or act like they have every answer in the world, but more of a "this is how we do it... see if it would work for what you are trying to do". In my experience, the "yelling" coaches wouldn't be willing to share information on the internet in fear of someone "knowing what we do"... LOL. If you block the guy you are supposed to and the 1st guy there makes the tackle every time... ALL the offenses work and all the defenses work. I would say you are correct in the fact that most guys here tend to focus on technique, teaching concepts, using computers to help as well as just trying to find a better way to do what they believe in.
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Post by 2adaysfootballcom on Feb 10, 2014 19:29:05 GMT -6
I agree although I also love X's and O's
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Post by mariner42 on Feb 10, 2014 20:39:05 GMT -6
There's solid crew of guys here that I would totally work for/with if the opportunity presented itself. I can't say that about a lot of coaches I know in real life.
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Post by Underdeveloped on Feb 10, 2014 21:22:00 GMT -6
Probably lots of types" on here but mostly ones who think and act in a similar vain, post. The 800 members who don't post are either dead or too lazy to argue. Hee hee
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Post by fantom on Feb 10, 2014 21:38:40 GMT -6
I agree although I also love X's and O's One thing that happens is that generally the longer a guy is here the less inclined he is to get into an X's and O's discussion. It gets old having the same discussion over and over. If there's a question in my area of expertise and somebody gives a similar answer to what mine would be, I'm happy to let it be. If nobody does I'll say what we do. If there's a direct question I'll answer it but won't get into an argument. Been there done that.
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Post by irishpete on Feb 10, 2014 22:06:13 GMT -6
I identify up top with a lot of those things. I don't post extremely often, but I think the quest for knowledge is what makes a "coachhuey" coach.
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Post by 33coach on Feb 10, 2014 22:15:35 GMT -6
Some recent posts have led me to believe that there is a general consensus in attitude, coaching style, and general beliefs amongst coaches on this site. The interesting thing is, at least from my perspective, is not all coaches are the same way. So I started thinking, "are there certain types of coaches that gravitate to a forum like this, or maybe we have rubbed off on each other a lot?" In any case, there are certain qualities that I think coaches on this site tend to display more often than other coaches (I'll list some below) I was wondering if you all felt the same way. Coaches here tend to be less yellers and more teachers. In that same vein we tend to be less concerned with rah-rah type motivation, or fire and brimstone type speeches. Often times we are the computer savy one on the staff. We are less concerned with plays and more with technique (at least as far as defensive coaches go) There are others I have noticed, but would rather see if others agree, and if they feel the same way. this is a social consensus here for sure. But i think thats created by us more then people "gravitating". for example. there have been many people who have come here, and nearly been run out (not without reason...many of them were 'thingys' ). here is what I understand to be true about 'coachhuey coaches'. 1) we want to learn, and get better. everyone here understands that there is always someone smarter (except OJW ). 2) we want to share. we arnt a group of people who are secretive about what we do. 3) we are the more technical coaches. (as you pointed out) 4) we are not afraid to debate. 5) we love coaching kids. its not just a job!
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Post by mariner42 on Feb 10, 2014 22:27:07 GMT -6
I identify up top with a lot of those things. I don't post extremely often, but I think the quest for knowledge is what makes a "coachhuey" coach. So about that Pin N Pull thread... NECESITO MAS INFORMACION SENOR.
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Post by coachdubyah on Feb 10, 2014 22:27:37 GMT -6
There's solid crew of guys here that I would totally work for/with if the opportunity presented itself. I can't say that about a lot of coaches I know in real life. All in all, I just want to meet Lochness face to face. I just want to know what they guy looks like. I picture him in my head him looking like Allen (w/ satchel) from "The Hangover". Blb is probably the Obi Wan Kanobi of the Veer Offense. Anyways, I love this site. I can honestly say that I have learned more football from this site than any clinic that I have ever been to. I get made fun of for being on here by co-workers at times, but this place is a great place to be. My "pen pals" ,as my wife calls ya'll, are the best. This is a bunch of guys that that just want to talk ball and get the details to bring back to our kids in order for them to be successful.
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Post by mariner42 on Feb 10, 2014 22:29:34 GMT -6
There's solid crew of guys here that I would totally work for/with if the opportunity presented itself. I can't say that about a lot of coaches I know in real life. All in all, I just want to meet Lochness face to face. I just want to know what they guy looks like. I picture him in my head him looking like Allen (w/ satchel) from "The Hangover". I've always envisioned him like a mischievous badger.
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Post by irishpete on Feb 10, 2014 22:49:04 GMT -6
I identify up top with a lot of those things. I don't post extremely often, but I think the quest for knowledge is what makes a "coachhuey" coach. So about that Pin N Pull thread... NECESITO MAS INFORMACION SENOR. I plan on doing a major update soon. I have to get my clinic notes cleaned up and I'll put them in there also. Sus informacion estara aqui pronto, amigo!
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on Feb 10, 2014 22:56:54 GMT -6
All in all, I just want to meet Lochness face to face. I just want to know what they guy looks like. I picture him in my head him looking like Allen (w/ satchel) from "The Hangover". I've always envisioned him like a mischievous badger. THIS KIND OF BADGER?
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 10, 2014 23:27:36 GMT -6
All in all, I just want to meet Lochness face to face. I just want to know what they guy looks like. I picture him in my head him looking like Allen (w/ satchel) from "The Hangover". I've always envisioned him like a mischievous badger. I like to picture him with eagle's wings, singing lead vocals for lynyrd skynyrd, with an angel band
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Post by coachcb on Feb 11, 2014 6:45:55 GMT -6
You'll see that the majority of coaches on here are successful on the field. They have a passion for not only the game but continuing to learn about it as well. This shows humility which will get a person far in coaching and in life in general.
Unfortunately, we're involved in a profession packed full of ego and idiocy. I was chalked full of both early on and this site helped me realize that I needed to change.
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Post by beebe on Feb 11, 2014 8:48:30 GMT -6
love this site and read it everyday....don't post much myself, but learn a lot from yall....every once in a while i will throw something in...i also love to see how policies and styles are different around the country.
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Post by hammer66 on Feb 11, 2014 9:49:05 GMT -6
As noted by many of you there are alot of coaches unwilling to use any new ideas. Not to mention additional resources like this site. I once had a OLD School coach say to me where did you get that... the internet? We were talking about BDSD... now that was funny stuff!
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Post by newt21 on Feb 11, 2014 21:33:37 GMT -6
i think it's more about fine tuning our craft in any way that we can. we're always looking to get better any way that we can, because we owe that much to the kids we coach. if we're not giving them all that we can, then we're doing them a disservice. those are the kind of coaches that i see on this board.
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Post by pvogel on Feb 12, 2014 8:49:43 GMT -6
It seems that the demographic is skewed more towards younger groups. And those "older" folks definitely have the energy and enthusiasm of younger guys.
I feel like just about all of us are slightly off and people think were crazy. Not in a football sense necessarily, but in a societal sense. I know that if I met most of you on the streets and we were not coaches I would say something along the lines of "wow that guy is absolutely freaking nuts". And not in a bad way.
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Post by casec11 on Feb 12, 2014 8:57:53 GMT -6
I think the coaches on here for the most part know "they don't know it all"
I second the comment about coaching with the coaches on here. I have often thought If i was a HC a good get would be to lure one of the great posters to your staff.
Also this is one of the only places I get to talk ball, Sometimes I can with a few on staff but as I don't work at the school it is tuff to do.
This site gives me my fix as I bet it does many of you.
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Post by unc31 on Feb 12, 2014 9:23:02 GMT -6
I agree with a lot of the previous comments. It is obvious that the coaches on this board for the most part are:
a. Students of the game b. Open minded c. Passionate about the sport. ( why else would we spend our time on a football coaching board) d. Willing to share and give back to the sport e. Eager to learn and stay abreast of new concepts, methods and innovations f. Do not have the ego to think that they have all the answers
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Post by lochness on Feb 12, 2014 9:46:13 GMT -6
There's solid crew of guys here that I would totally work for/with if the opportunity presented itself. I can't say that about a lot of coaches I know in real life. All in all, I just want to meet Lochness face to face. I just want to know what they guy looks like. I picture him in my head him looking like Allen (w/ satchel) from "The Hangover". Blb is probably the Obi Wan Kanobi of the Veer Offense. Anyways, I love this site. I can honestly say that I have learned more football from this site than any clinic that I have ever been to. I get made fun of for being on here by co-workers at times, but this place is a great place to be. My "pen pals" ,as my wife calls ya'll, are the best. This is a bunch of guys that that just want to talk ball and get the details to bring back to our kids in order for them to be successful. Haha! Jezuz! That is something right there. I'm 6' 190 with short hair and clean cut! Not NEARLY as good looking as Allen, though.
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Post by lochness on Feb 12, 2014 9:50:52 GMT -6
I've always envisioned him like a mischievous badger. I like to picture him with eagle's wings, singing lead vocals for lynyrd skynyrd, with an angel band You guys are killing me. The sad thing is, I'm about as generic looking as any human being could possibly be. But something tells me you guys won't buy that.
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