coachie
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Post by coachie on Jan 14, 2014 21:30:20 GMT -6
Thoughts? Crazy over the top coaches....etc....
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Post by Yash on Jan 14, 2014 21:34:29 GMT -6
I refuse to even watch a show like this. It's a joke, it's not football its reality TV. Its for ratings and is probably dramatized to make people talk about it. I love the game... not the BS that people try to make it.
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mw54
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Post by mw54 on Jan 14, 2014 21:52:37 GMT -6
Absolutely a shame. Looks like an attempt to make youth coaches look bad. There are many good youth coaches out there but I guess they wouldn't be as good for ratings.
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Post by kwiknva on Jan 15, 2014 11:27:53 GMT -6
Agree, TYFA needs to get a grip on the organizations that allow in their league. The show started off bad with the questionaire of kids to catch cheaters. Interogation of 8/9 year olds?? Youth football not CIA. I saw very little coaching and a win at all cost attitude from coaches.
I hope the show will show how a good program/league/team operates so that viewers can see that's not how youth football is across America. If not then shame on esquire for exploiting kids for sole purpose of ratings.
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Post by newhope on Jan 15, 2014 11:29:39 GMT -6
Reality tv: rewarding bad behavior and making stupid people famous.
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Post by mhs99 on Jan 15, 2014 19:57:09 GMT -6
I am watching this garbage now and can honestly say i have never wanted to jump through my television and beat another human to a bloody stump as much as do i do right now. Those youth coaches are despicable, should be shot.
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Post by kylem56 on Jan 15, 2014 20:15:36 GMT -6
Watched less than 10 minutes of this garbage. Feel bad for the high school coaches in this area. Can't imagine the BS they have to put up with from all sorts of people
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Post by agjarrell on Jan 15, 2014 22:25:12 GMT -6
Watched less than 10 minutes of this garbage. Feel bad for the high school coaches in this area. Can't imagine the BS they have to put up with from all sorts of people There's not a lot people like that in Judson ISD at the HS level but the ones that are can be a pain
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Post by fantom on Jan 15, 2014 22:31:11 GMT -6
Watched less than 10 minutes of this garbage. Feel bad for the high school coaches in this area. Can't imagine the BS they have to put up with from all sorts of people I watched a little to kill time after the Flyers' game ended. Appalling stuff.
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Post by 90rocket on Jan 16, 2014 3:27:24 GMT -6
How much do these youth coaches get paid? I know there are youth coaches out there who swear and yell at 9 year olds but my jaw dropped when I say the kids with wrist coaches, coaches breaking down film, president of an organization demanding a schematic change etc.
It didnt really seem like most of these guys were very knowledgable coaches for the most part. All you really hear is "toss the ball and get outside to use your speed."
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Post by John Knight on Jan 16, 2014 6:33:08 GMT -6
How could a Hockey fan be appalled by anything? LOL!!!
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Post by mikesmd77 on Jan 16, 2014 7:33:09 GMT -6
If participation in youth football is declining, shows like that can only hurt that even more. Poor coaching, ridiculous behavior.. I coached on the youth level and while you do come across clowns like this, there are very good coaches and the top programs NEVER have coaches who behave like this.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 16, 2014 8:44:34 GMT -6
I was very fortunate to come up in an era where my youth coaches kept the game about fundamentals and competing within ones self to improve daily. At least I saw it from that perspective through my young eyes. And they were all very accomplished men on and off the field. Yet, they were not about all of this bravado and ego and status that you see today. I'm sure there were coaches like that back then, but they had to be few and far between because I don't remember them. I do however, remember my youth coaches fondly. When I see shows like this (which I have yet to watch), it makes me appreciate them even more.
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Post by CALIcoach on Jan 16, 2014 9:46:53 GMT -6
I was disappointed with this show. Majority of the coaches are a joke. They don't seem to teach fundamentals or techniques. I don't see them developing these kids. They just randomly run drills without direction or emphasizing good tackling or anything techniques or fundamentals. Plus a lot of them are just worried about their egos and not the kids....I could go on and on.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 16, 2014 9:50:13 GMT -6
Full contact football should not be permitted until 5th grade at the earliest. People like these "coaches" in this show are a prime example of why. And I only watched the preview to arrive at that conclusion.
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Post by fantom on Jan 16, 2014 9:57:35 GMT -6
How could a Hockey fan be appalled by anything? LOL!!! And a Flyers fan at that. That tells you how bad it was.
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Post by ccoupelin on Jan 16, 2014 10:05:56 GMT -6
Seemed to me to be very little coaching and a whole lot of yelling and trying to be the "hard nosed" coach. I was looking at the scenes from practice and it looked like a lot of athletes and coaches were standing around watching when they could be coaching up the kids...but then again their idea of coaching up the kids was "you need to be athletic!! Stop crying and get in there" type of crap instead of teaching actual technique. Then again its just a reality show.
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Post by mahonz on Jan 16, 2014 13:31:53 GMT -6
As a long time youth coach here is my take.
I only watched Episode 1. I didn't see enough practice or game film to make any real determinations if they can or cannot actually teach this game. Im thinking probably not.
The language and tactics used were another matter. Not the norm at all from my experiences...30 years.
The way I looked at it is if someone filmed me at a practice and then during a game...then edited for ratings...they could make anyone look like a fool.
I am shocked the League allowed this to happen. This League is huge with 90 Orgs in S. Texas. Very dumb move and very bad for business. I wont watch anymore. It was designed for the under educated as entertainment....if you can call it that.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 17, 2014 7:08:24 GMT -6
It didnt really seem like most of these guys were very knowledgable coaches for the most part. All you really hear is "toss the ball and get outside to use your speed." Isn't that what 80% of all youth football programs do? Youth football should be banned at any age IMO. But I think all organized youth sports should be dismantled.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2014 7:55:09 GMT -6
It didnt really seem like most of these guys were very knowledgable coaches for the most part. All you really hear is "toss the ball and get outside to use your speed." Isn't that what 80% of all youth football programs do? Youth football should be banned at any age IMO. But I think all organized youth sports should be dismantled. To go along with this, one of the most successful high school coaches in all of Illinois coached at a program that didn't have ANY youth football, even middle school, for years. He was asked once in a newspaper article how he overcomes that and his answer basically stated that he was glad they didn't have youth football. This program does have junior high football now and their high school success the last three years is nowhere near what it was. That may be coincidence, but at the same time I don't think having youth football is nearly as vital as some of us think it is.
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Post by casec11 on Jan 17, 2014 8:02:48 GMT -6
I don't believe this at all. 80% is probably high. For the most part the kids who come into our program that have played youth have decent technique, sure we have to fix some kids, or teach our way but the majority have a good base. (we do not have a feeder) Not only that, but they have learned to protect themselves and have the shock of being hit out of there system.... The kids who have not played "youth ball" are at a big disadvantage, because the kids that have played have developed the attitude and instincts already. Our area is south Florida so there are many youth leagues and teams in the area that are very competitive. Being a former "youth" coach I know first hand that there are many good youth coaches (many of which are professionals that don't have the hours for highschool coaching), and many that are way better then some of the highschool coaches in the area. Of course there are bad ones too even in the same programs.
That being said when I watched the first 10 minutes of the show I got really sick and had to turn it off. Wondered to myself are other places really that different. Then thought the show is trying to show extremes for viewership so they went out and found the spot with the most compelling story lines and angst.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 17, 2014 9:39:56 GMT -6
I only used 80% because of the youth league teams I've been around it's true 100% of the time.
Then, when Jimmy the premature mature kid in 7th grade gets caught up to by the other sophs and jrs, mommy and daddy hate the coach because "when they were in JFL they went undefeated".
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Post by fantom on Jan 17, 2014 12:17:47 GMT -6
Going back to "Friday Night Lights" I've always wondered what makes teams and associations allow themselves to be on shows like this.
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Post by coachrdc on Jan 17, 2014 13:50:10 GMT -6
Some great points on youth football in general made here.
As for the show, it sounds like I got rid of cable at just the right time.
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Post by brophy on Jan 17, 2014 16:05:17 GMT -6
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 17, 2014 18:09:34 GMT -6
these guys are the elite youth coaches in the elite youth league in Texas?
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Post by mahonz on Jan 17, 2014 23:52:38 GMT -6
It didnt really seem like most of these guys were very knowledgable coaches for the most part. All you really hear is "toss the ball and get outside to use your speed." Isn't that what 80% of all youth football programs do? Youth football should be banned at any age IMO. But I think all organized youth sports should be dismantled. Love your Avatar Bro.
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Post by souza12 on Jan 18, 2014 14:45:43 GMT -6
As a long time youth coach here is my take. I only watched Episode 1. I didn't see enough practice or game film to make any real determinations if they can or cannot actually teach this game. Im thinking probably not. The language and tactics used were another matter. Not the norm at all from my experiences...30 years. The way I looked at it is if someone filmed me at a practice and then during a game...then edited for ratings...they could make anyone look like a fool. I am shocked the League allowed this to happen. This League is huge with 90 Orgs in S. Texas. Very dumb move and very bad for business. I wont watch anymore. It was designed for the under educated as entertainment....if you can call it that. There has only been one episode i think, and I think I can agree with your statement for now. But there were a WHOLE LOT of clips of that Jr. Broncos coach.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 18, 2014 22:21:02 GMT -6
I THOUGHT I sent this before (and if I did, I apologize) but I think it would be exceptional if the Texas High school Football association (because the show is set in TX correct) and the AFCA both condemned the show, and the adults in it .
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Post by CatsCoach on Jan 20, 2014 7:55:35 GMT -6
This show really gives youth coaches a bad name! I couldn't believe some of the things they where telling and having these 8 and 9 year old kids doing. No concern about safety, running tackling drills with the kids 10 yards apart. One coach telling one of his players to take a cheap shot on the center before the ball was snapped and the list goes on and no. I have coached youth ball for 11 years and I have never seen anything that bad. Did not see any teaching or coaching up the kids all. As coach I felt embarrassed watching this crap.
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