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Post by coachvann on Dec 9, 2013 12:07:05 GMT -6
With the season ending I know many coaches are starting to work on their calendar as far as workouts, camps, 7on7 and game schedules. I am putting mine out in January and I was going to go with the same deal I have always done-workouts during athletic period and test days give them a week off when school ends and then start up our summer conditioning for 4 days a week for 2.5 hours a day and schedule our 7on7's that is usually 3 hours on Thursdays...so mathmatically we are doing athletic period during the school year and they are getting 3-4 hours of work a week; then during the summer they are getting 13 hours a week. I have always thought that to be pretty normal.
Then one of my coaches shared with me about burn out rates and what a successful football program down here in Central Florida does and that they only workout 2 days a week over the summer! They still do their athletic period but scale back during the summer time! This coach that does that has state championships under his belts and his kids are always physical! So it seems to work. It just really bothers me to bring in kids only 2 days a week compared to what I usually do...but I'm sure there are some benefits to it. My question to you guys is-Do you see benefits to scaling back to 2 days a week in your football program over the summer?
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Post by CS on Dec 9, 2013 17:39:38 GMT -6
I would have to say....ABSOLUTELY!!!! I have seen players get burned out in the middle of the season after a tough summer.
We have a mandatory 2 week period we can't see the players during the summer so that helps but I think this philosophy has merit.
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Post by bruinfb on Dec 9, 2013 18:43:23 GMT -6
Having that athletic period is very beneficial. We don't have that so we do three days a week after school for about 1.5 hours, then once school ends we will do 4 days a week in summer, those are usually 2 hour sessions. If we didn't go 4 days a week, i would question how we could get enough lifting in, but it is certainly an interesting thought.
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Post by coachbdud on Dec 9, 2013 19:28:31 GMT -6
guys with athletic periods don't realize how lucky they are
I believe in lifting all summer, I think we have done too much in pads over the summer and by the time our kids start we all hate football
I like giving them Friday off... last year we went all 5 days, and initially I liked it... however I feel that it burned everyone out, including the coaches.
Friday is the one day our kids get off of summer school (half our team goes to summer school each year) so it is nice to give them a 3 day break and let them be kids
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Post by coachvann on Dec 9, 2013 20:56:35 GMT -6
Great thoughts coaches!!
Are there any coaches who started off with 4 days a week and scaled back and got good returns?
I will add a disclaimer that I think this thought changes if you don't have athletic period...I think you gotta role 4 times a week then.
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Post by joker31 on Dec 9, 2013 23:15:43 GMT -6
We have gone harder the last two summers than we ever have in our program, this resulted in both teams season's ending sooner than expected. Perhaps it's the burnout mentioned above.
75% of our Varsity kids will be in S&C/Athletic Periods, therefore we will do less after school. We are taking a trip to Texas next fall for a game however, so to be allowed on the trip the player will have to make a mandatory amount of after-school workouts (I will suggest 40 workouts for a player who is not participating in another sport, 20 for a player in another sport/in those classes)
I am going to suggest to our head coach that we have a 10-14 day dead period before Fall Camp begins in August as well.
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Post by realdawg on Dec 10, 2013 5:11:49 GMT -6
Our kids have wt training in school. We can't have spring practice but can do "skill development". We do this by position groups. Usually twice a week for about 6 weeks during April and May. We then have a week off after school gets out. Then we go 4 days a week for about 3 hrs a day (lift, run, practice). We don't fuss at a kid who goes on vacation. We are dead the week of July 4 and the state coaches clinic.
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Post by blb on Dec 10, 2013 8:49:19 GMT -6
We don't have Weight Training during school, heck we've barely got Physical Education at all.
We do after school lifting M-W-F beginning first of the year. In the past we started after Thanksgiving.
We have also started Summer stuff Monday after school finished in June - workouts M-W-F, some 7-on-7s.
I have decided this year we aren't going to start until after July 4 (state has a "Dead Week" then anyway).
One reason is attrition. We typically get a Freshman football class of 15-18 kids (school enrollment currently 408).
We have been losing about five kids a class by the time they get to Varsity, which for a school our size is significant.
Now I've been coaching long enough to know there are a lot of reasons kids stop playing. But most of our kids play 2-3 sports (all of whom do Summer stuff too) in addition to school, work, family-personal life.
So we're going to cut back and see if it makes a positive difference.
I don't care about "keeping up with the Jones." We're going to do what I think is best for our kids and our situation.
And right now I think it's less may be more.
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Post by coach2013 on Dec 10, 2013 10:02:26 GMT -6
With the season ending I know many coaches are starting to work on their calendar as far as workouts, camps, 7on7 and game schedules. I am putting mine out in January and I was going to go with the same deal I have always done-workouts during athletic period and test days give them a week off when school ends and then start up our summer conditioning for 4 days a week for 2.5 hours a day and schedule our 7on7's that is usually 3 hours on Thursdays...so mathmatically we are doing athletic period during the school year and they are getting 3-4 hours of work a week; then during the summer they are getting 13 hours a week. I have always thought that to be pretty normal. Then one of my coaches shared with me about burn out rates and what a successful football program down here in Central Florida does and that they only workout 2 days a week over the summer! They still do their athletic period but scale back during the summer time! This coach that does that has state championships under his belts and his kids are always physical! So it seems to work. It just really bothers me to bring in kids only 2 days a week compared to what I usually do...but I'm sure there are some benefits to it. My question to you guys is-Do you see benefits to scaling back to 2 days a week in your football program over the summer? Lots of ways to do it, lots of ways to make it work, lots of different ways to win championships- do it your way |
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