CoachAc
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Post by CoachAc on Feb 2, 2006 8:49:52 GMT -6
I am wondering how many coaches get plain solid color jersyes for thier team as opposed to ones with stripes and multi-colored things on them. Im asking because the school Im at now has these jersyes that have stripes and everything else and it kinda sux. My suggestion was to go with solid jerseys with maybe trim around the neck and sleeves and solid color pants. The school colors are black, gold, white. You cant tell me solid black uniforms wouldnt look good under the friday night lights. Anyway I figured maybe Im way off here so why not ask.
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Post by aznando on Feb 2, 2006 9:17:53 GMT -6
IMO Black pants always look good and if you couple it with a Solid Black and Gold trim jersey, that's going to look real good under the lights. What color are your helmets?
Aznando
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Post by knighter on Feb 2, 2006 12:54:33 GMT -6
we have black pants with road jerseys (basically pretty plan, white jersey with the shadow striping like the patriots) orange number black outline trimmed with orange around the neck and sleeves
we have orange pants with home jerseys (again fairly plain black jersey with shadow striping, white number with orange outline and trimmed in orange like roadd jersey)
helmets are black with black facemasks...no sticker at all except a small # decal and an American flag and mayb a PRIDE sticker depending on if the reached the required number of points to earn it (PRIDE for us is personal responsibility in daily effort)
i am not a fan of black on black, although 1 game a year i let our kids do it. always ends up being homecoming....
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Post by brophy on Feb 2, 2006 14:04:06 GMT -6
Any of you take any credence to the psychology of uniforms and colors?
We read that the color RED produced a more intimidating presence. We switched our color scheme to be predominately RED.....even though we were a "blue" team....
We won one more game than usual.
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 2, 2006 14:30:42 GMT -6
What about black then? Not that I get intimidated by a team's colors but...black and red always seems to be an "indimidating" combo.
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Post by brophy on Feb 2, 2006 14:35:25 GMT -6
It is obvious that the colors used in sports have various psychological effects upon the teams and their supporters. However, the colors used by the clubs representing a certain region or city may also have cultural implications. If the target of a sport club is successful and increasing its supporters, the marketability has a prime importance.
The facts that, the colors have stimulating effect on the morals of the people, represent certain social values, their effects on the psychology of people and their use outside the sports ground which creates a commercial value show that colors have an important role in achieving the targets of a club. Therefore, the correct use of colors which have such important impacts upon the lives and performance of the people requires the comprehension of their moral, visual and cultural impacts.
Color is described as phenomena resulted from the visual perception of the rays reflected from the matter ( Hallalý & Nazil, 2001) and radiation with a certain wave length within the visual region of the electromagnetic spectrum ( Active, 2000). Colors have been used for therapeutic purposes for so many years. It was realized that colors had psychological and physical effect upon the people ( Hallalý & Nazil, 2001).
The research shows that the most favorite color of the people is blue followed by red and green. The adult men prefer green, ocean blue, orange and dark purple, and adult women mostly like light purple colors. The favorite colors of children are blue, red, green, yellow and orange (Budzinski, 1986).
Colors are classified as fundamental colors (red, blue and yellow), mid colors obtained by the mixture of at least two colors (purple, orange and green) and neutral colors (white, black and grey) ( Hallalý & Nazil, 2001). The colors have different meaning and different effects.
These can be summarized as follows (Kalmýk, 1964; Gabain, 1968; Crozier, 1999; Halis, 2000; Wright, 2000b):
Red. Red is a strong color, which stimulates viability, gives physical courage, has stimulating effect, makes visual impact, and may create stress and aggression. It is related with activation of the impulse of “fight or escape”.
Green . Green creates the feeling of love, relaxation, renewal, dependability, environmental consciousness, balance and peace.
Blue. It has a mainly a relaxing, concentration increasing, assisting in mental relief, and relieving effect. However, it may have a cold and senseless impression as well.
Yellow. It symbolizes excitement, self confidence, openness, friendship and creativity. Yellow is more rapidly perceived than the other colors, and eyes are more sensitive to it. This makes yellow one of the favorite colors.
White. It is the symbol of health and hygiene. It has gives the feeling of correctness and trust. However, it makes the eyes tired very fast.
Black. It reminds seriousness and dignity. However, it frequently implies sorrow, death and darkness.
Grey. It is colorless and creates no strong feelings.
Purple (Violet). It creates the feeling of pessimism, regret, fear and opposite feelings. It is perceived as the indication of power and divinity.
Orange. It gives the sense of brightness and warmth. It has a powerful activating effect. It creates the feeling of openness and increases the will to live.
Pink. It expresses kindness, softness, happiness and pleasure which are regarded as feminine feelings. That was why the soccer clubs refrain from using this color.
Brown. It induces seriousness, warmth, robustness and support. It mainly addresses the adults. It may occasionally result in melancholic feelings.
Starting from these let us evaluate the color and color combinations used by the soccer clubs for symbolic purposes and investigate their interactions and implications on people. |
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Post by knighter on Feb 2, 2006 14:37:56 GMT -6
Brophy if so can I dress my guys in PINK!!!! LOL
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Post by tribepride on Feb 2, 2006 14:44:49 GMT -6
Brophy, thats why as an adult we get that melancholic feeling when we see brown in our skidders  |
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 2, 2006 14:48:56 GMT -6
Correct me if I am wrong b/c I am not a scientist (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express Last Night LOL) but I thought I read that black and yellow in combination in nature was a warning to other animals of danger don't mess with me. For example hornets/yellowjackets/wasps all have black and yellow banded bodies.
It would be very interesting if someone ever did a study to see how school/uniform colors effected winning pcts. What color scheme brought the highest winning percentage? Of course there are so many more important factors...but it could be fun and interesting.
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Post by brophy on Feb 2, 2006 14:54:13 GMT -6
hey, guys.....we take this very seriously......which is why we contracted this guy to design our uniforms next year!  |
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Post by wildcat on Feb 2, 2006 14:57:00 GMT -6
We used to wear blue jersies over red pants until the other coaches in the conference started calling us the Superheros and the Clowns. Now, we wear blue jersies on blue pants or white jersies on red pants. Looks much better.
The blue jersey on red pants look was really, really bad.
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Post by bulldogoption on Feb 2, 2006 14:57:54 GMT -6
Coachac, The school I took over at had very 'busy' uniforms and decals for helmets. The uniforms looked nice but the football on the field struggled. I chose to go to a plain solid color with big block letters. No names, no decals on the helmets. My intention was to put the focus back onto football rather than what we look like. We only won one game last year, but they hadn't won in three years prior to that, so time will tell if my plan is working. bulldogoption |
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Post by brophy on Feb 2, 2006 15:09:41 GMT -6
we had the blue on red.....I actually liked it, though.....from the press box (with kids wearing the Red/blue UnderArmor) they looked like a bunch of SpiderMen. Blue jerseys with vertical red stripe [img src="http://www.dabearz.com/forums/downloads/fball%20mike%20martz%202000%20st.louis%20rams%20offense%20[63151].jpg"]  Sporting black By: PT Staff Summary: Reports on the Buffalo, New York-based Research Institute on Addiction psychologists Alan Reifman and Neil McGillicuddy's study on the impact of dark-colored uniforms on sports teams' performance. Referees' tendency to notice more infractions made by teams wearing dark uniforms. Find a therapist near you. Enter your City or Zip: Thinking of wearing black to that pickup football or hockey game you play onweekends? Think again. While donning dark duds may score you fashion points, outfitting your team in black also may make it more likely you'll suffer the wrath of the ref. A recent study found that pro hockey teams in black attire incurred 6 percent more penalties over a four-year period than teams that wore colorful gear. In some seasons, this increase translated into an extra two-minute penalty per game. Just as red sports cars seem to magically attract the attention of state troopers, referees are more likely to notice infractions made by black-garbed players, say psychologists Alan Reifman, Ph.D., and Neil McGillicuddy, Ph.D., of the Research Institute on Addiction, in Buffalo. (This study served as a lightweight diversion from their usual, more sobering research.) Dark uniforms also appear to turn up players' aggression a notch, resulting in well-deserved penalties for hostile acts. Since aggression is often a plus in sports like hockey and football, might wearing black actually help a team win games? Not necessarily, says Reifman, noting that the benefits might be outweighed by the extra penalties. In any event, the advantages and disadvantages of black uniforms disappear as the fight for a league championship intensifies. Previous studies have shown that subtle factors like color have less influence on our everyday behavior when we're in a high-pressure situation. So Reifman wasn't surprised to find that uniform color made no difference once a hockey team reached the Stanley Cup playoffs. |
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Post by brophy on Feb 2, 2006 15:20:40 GMT -6
If winning is everything, British anthropologists have some advice: Wear red. Their survey of four sports at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens shows competitors were more likely to win their contests if they wore red uniforms or red body armor. Across a range of sports, we find that wearing red is consistently associated with a higher probability of winning," report Russell A. Hill and Robert A. Barton of the University of Durham in England. Their findings are in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature. Red coloration is associated with aggression in many animals. Often it is sexually selected so that scarlet markings signal male dominance. Just think of the red stripes on the scowling face of the male Mandrill, Africa's largest monkey species. But red is not exclusively a male trait. It's the female black widow spider that is venomous and displays a menacing red dot on her abdomen. Similarly, the color's effect also may subconsciously intimidate opponents in athletic contests, especially when the athletes are equal in skill and strength, the researchers suggest. In their survey, the anthropologists analyzed the results of four one-on-one contact sports at the summer games: boxing, tae kwon do, Greco-Roman wrestling and freestyle wrestling. In those events, the athletes were randomly assigned red protective gear and other sportswear. Athletes wearing red gear won more often in 16 of 21 rounds of competition in all four events. The effect was the same regardless of weight classes, too: 19 of 29 classes had more red winners, and only four rounds had more blue winners. The red effect also might come into play in team sports. The anthropologists made a preliminary analysis of the Euro 2004 international soccer tournament, in which teams wore jerseys of different colors in different matches. They found that five teams scored more goals and won more often when they wore shirts that were predominantly red, as opposed to blue or white jerseys. Scientists don't precisely known how wearing red might give athletes an advantage. But the color delivers implicit messages of vigor and danger. When people get angry, their faces turn red. It's also a reason why stop signs are red. So are most Ferraris. A case can perhaps be made that most of the recent winners of U.S. sports championships have at least a touch of red on their uniforms: among pro teams, the Boston Red Sox, New England Patriots, the Detroit Pistons. And in college football, Southern California. But it's the gracious sport of golf that offers the best example. Tiger Woods wears an iconic red shirt on Sundays, the final day of most tournaments. Source: sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/more/05/18/wear.red.ap/index.html?cnn= |
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CoachAc
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Post by CoachAc on Feb 2, 2006 15:27:36 GMT -6
Dont remeber who asked but are helmets are Notre Dame gold as of this coming season, it used to be yellow that they tried topawn off as gold. But that Notre Dame gold accented the neck and sleeves I feel would be a nice combination. Obviously the numbers would have to be gold maybe a touch of white or something dont know for sure. i was also thinking maybe like the old school steeler helmets with the decal on only one side but once again not sure tho. Imnot the head coach so I can play with ideas till I get my own program I guess
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 2, 2006 21:04:22 GMT -6
Red seems to work for Tiger Woods. Also, Brophy...I like those unis. Wildcat--I always thought those unis of yours were good too.
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Post by coachdawhip on Feb 2, 2006 21:39:13 GMT -6
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Post by aznando on Feb 2, 2006 22:50:38 GMT -6
That Nike Uniform thing is pretty fun.
Aznando
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Post by shermdog on Feb 2, 2006 23:25:38 GMT -6
I have designed several sets of uniforms wih the nike designer. If you use the modified/elite, Cost is realistically 120-135 per jersey. You get what you pay for.
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baraboo99
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Post by baraboo99 on Feb 3, 2006 9:22:05 GMT -6
Any of you take any credence to the psychology of uniforms and colors? We read that the color RED produced a more intimidating presence. We switched our color scheme to be predominately RED.....even though we were a "blue" team.... We won one more game than usual. In 2004 my team had black jerseys with green trim  they finished 2-5 In my first year I had them switch to red jersey's with black trim,  went 5-2...coincidence? |
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Post by brophy on Feb 3, 2006 9:44:18 GMT -6
Thanks for the pics.....
Green mellows me out....the RED looks menacing there.
How come the bottom team all have different helmets?
**Thanks for the NIKE link, as well...
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Post by coachdawhip on Feb 3, 2006 12:44:09 GMT -6
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Post by saintrad on Feb 3, 2006 13:20:14 GMT -6
dang brophy..i lost track of the conversation, what were we talking about again, i keep findinig myself staring at your sig line....ooops, need to drain the keyboard of slobber again
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Post by meyerspread on Feb 3, 2006 16:47:37 GMT -6
Cmon now... Do you truly believe in this... If your team is intimidated by the color of the opponent's jersey, or has to be inspired by you own jersey, then you probably aren't going to win anyway... just my opinion...
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Post by yspace on Feb 3, 2006 18:41:02 GMT -6
Interesting discussion. One Wing-T team in Indiana has created some controversy by wearing Red jerseys as their "light" color on the road--apparently it helps them hide the ball better...or maybe they feel more intimidating.
While not a pure traditionalist (we wear a variation of the New York Jets look - contasting sleeve, but with no contrasting side insert and a very tradtional font for the numbers), I do think that, as things go in cycles, ten years from now we'll look back at some of the stripes and weird fonts and bibs and inserts and sleeve variations the same way we look back at ruffled tuxedos and polyester baseball uniforms now...in other words, "what were we thinking?"
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 3, 2006 20:03:04 GMT -6
That is why the Penn State look will always remain classic.
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Post by coachdawhip on Feb 3, 2006 20:23:16 GMT -6
Some schools shouldn't change like Penn State. I do think uniforms have an effect on how the kids feel about themselves.
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 3, 2006 21:24:20 GMT -6
We had some bad unis when I took over. There were two different shades of blue, and some jerseys were so old the numbers were no longer untact. We bought all b=new jerseys...totally different look, and promptly snapped the losing streak. Now I think the play of the kids, and work of the coaches had more to do with it...but I know the kids certainly had more pride in wearing these new unis.
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Post by iahc on Feb 4, 2006 11:29:42 GMT -6
I'd have to agree with groundchuck - I think it does matter if the kids feel proud of what they are wearing on the field. Don't get me wrong, our columbia blue unis have never been the direct reason for a victory, but I think it is a confidence thing for some players. Your players must step between those white lines with all kinds of confidence and a positive frame of mind. If it is your uniforms that aid this sense of pride and positive mental attitude then you have part of the equation.
We talk about what it means to put on the Northeast uniform and that "N" they earn on the side of their helmet. It helps players develop that sense of pride and Unity that are so necessary for success.
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baraboo99
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Post by baraboo99 on Feb 7, 2006 9:08:54 GMT -6
Thanks for the pics..... Green mellows me out....the RED looks menacing there. How come the bottom team all have different helmets? **Thanks for the NIKE link, as well... Well for starters, the guy with the Michigan helmet was on loan to that team from a team in Helsinki (Helsinki Wolverines) and so there really was no point in him painting it over to have to paint it back. I had a kid who from that team too and he wouldnt paint his helmet either, he said its too expensive to get a replacement "wing" over here. As for the rest, the teams "official" helmet is green with a white mask, but white helmets are cheaper to buy then green ones...and when you spray paint them they really dont look that good. And unless you have a good sponsor over here, its hard to get a good paintjob. I have coached against teams where every player has a different helmet. My team was one of the few teams to have almost everyone with the same shell color. Only had one guy with a silver shell last year because he still believed his old team would come back (which it never did). We have a new sponsor this year and Im going to push to get everyone a fresh coat of metallic black on their shells and masks, to go with our new helmet logos and stripes. |
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