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Post by superpower on Nov 16, 2007 14:04:06 GMT -6
For the second consecutive year, I feel that some of my kids were cheated in the all-league selection process. I know this thing is political and there is no one perfect system. However, I am wondering what good procedures some of your leagues use to select the all-league teams as I would like to propose some changes in our league. Please post any good ideas, especially ones that you have experienced that worked well.
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Post by coachbw on Nov 16, 2007 14:12:19 GMT -6
What we do is not political at all (but I still hate it). We have the top team get 8 selections, the 2nd team get 7 selections, all the way down to the last place team getting one selection. The coaches then pick their own players based off of how many selections they receive. A couple of years ago we finished third and had 6 selections, I only had 4 kids that I felt were truly deserving of the award and the 8th place team had 2 kids that were better than the ones that we ended up giving it to.
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Post by cqmiller on Nov 16, 2007 15:14:52 GMT -6
In our league, EVERY team gets 5 automatic nominations. Then for every League-Win, you get an additional 3. Only have 5 league games so 70 players get nominated: 0 win = 5 1 win = 8 2 win = 11 3 win =14 4 win = 17 5 win = 20
We give out 1st & 2nd team honors with 1 QB, 3 RB, 3 WR, 5 OL, 4 DL, 4 LB, 4 DB per team for a total of 48 awards, plus we give out an MVP, Offensive MVP, Defensive MVP, and Special Team MVP award...so 52 total awards.
Since there are 8 LB's that get selected, each coach gets a list of nominations, and the individual coaches "sell" the reason why they nominated their own players. After all the players at that position have been talked about, the coaches vote for 8 players on a 1-8 scale with 8 being the "best", and 1 being the "worst" voted for. YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR YOUR OWN PLAYERS.
After the total vote tallies are done, then we vote for the MVP awards. If a player gets an MVP award, then they are not on the 1st/2nd team any longer and the next vote-getter will move into their spot.
It is still pretty political, but I think it ends up working out the best way it can with coaches ALL having a little bit of a bias toward their own players.
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Post by airraider on Nov 16, 2007 16:23:33 GMT -6
Our district (league) only has 1 first team receiver.. has a first team flanker.. a TE.. and 3 Rb's..
now my receiver caught 69 passes on the year, which lead the state in all classes.. but yet he gets 2nd team receiver.. to a MUCH better receiver as far as size, speed, ability.. but the kid only caught 40 passes..
I was baffled..
but my QB did make first team.. so that was a little bit better..
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Post by ajreaper on Nov 16, 2007 17:15:23 GMT -6
Each HC can nominate however many players he'd like at each position. Then each HC votes (cannot vote for his players) for the top 4 players in each position his #1 gets 4 points, his #2 gets 3 points etc- add up the points afterward and the top 1, 2 , 3, or 4 players are 1st team (Depending on the position). The next 1, 2, 3 or 4 players are 2nd team. Each HC picks 3 players to be honorable mention all region.
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Post by bulldogoption on Nov 17, 2007 11:01:45 GMT -6
What we do is not political at all (but I still hate it). We have the top team get 8 selections, the 2nd team get 7 selections, all the way down to the last place team getting one selection. The coaches then pick their own players based off of how many selections they receive. A couple of years ago we finished third and had 6 selections, I only had 4 kids that I felt were truly deserving of the award and the 8th place team had 2 kids that were better than the ones that we ended up giving it to. Are there a set number of positions or can the all conf team have 8 qbs if you want it to?
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Post by champ93 on Nov 17, 2007 20:43:09 GMT -6
Our all-league is similar to Coachbw's, but our numbers are higher. Last place, for example gets 3 all league, first gets 11. We each get 3 Honorable Mention also. We vote for Offensive & Defensive captains, Kicker, punter and special teams player.
If 8 QBs get nominated, then so be it. Maybe the 8 qb's are better than anyone's receivers. This year, no one nominated a punter since no one felt theirs was worthy of all-league honors. The newspapers just print who earned all-league honors by school, not position.
The system has worked well for our league. I've been to meetings where the nominees and their stats (which are sometimes questionable) are presented, the coaches vote, someone gets pissed and fistfights almost breakout.
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Post by k on Nov 18, 2007 1:59:37 GMT -6
Offense: 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 5 Linemen
Defense: 4 Down Linemen 4 Linebackers/ 2 point stance Defensive Ends 3 DBacks.
Offense is selected first. If you are selected on offense you can't be selected on defense. Coaches can only nominate players from other teams. You can vote for your own players.
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Post by airraider on Nov 18, 2007 6:55:56 GMT -6
Offense: 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 5 Linemen Defense: 4 Down Linemen 4 Linebackers/ 2 point stance Defensive Ends 3 DBacks. Offense is selected first. If you are selected on offense you can't be selected on defense. Coaches can only nominate players from other teams. You can vote for your own players. This is how we have done the break down in the past.. and some places have even went as far as to take out the TE and put in 3 receivers.. But, we have the coaches nominate their own players, but cannot vote for your own players.. Coach can make anyone he wants honorable mention..
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