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Post by tothehouse on May 16, 2007 8:37:42 GMT -6
Our board is about to approve a policy saying administrators CANNOT coach a sport.
What are your thoughts on this?
The arguement is partly based on making sure admins. are putting all of their effort into their job.
It is completely bogus to me. If a teacher can teach and coach....so can an administrator.
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Post by superpower on May 16, 2007 8:41:14 GMT -6
Not all administrators can pull off the coaching gig, but if they can and aren't allowed to, it only hurts the kids by not allowing them to be coached by a quality man or woman.
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Post by tvt50 on May 16, 2007 8:44:18 GMT -6
I know its a rule in our county, they also do not allow ADs to coach.
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Post by fbdoc on May 16, 2007 8:52:03 GMT -6
Not a rule in our neck of the woods (Florida). I've been doing it at my school for 6 years (5 as AD and 1 as Dean) plus 4 more years at another school. Sounds like mis-management of resources.
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Post by coachf on May 16, 2007 9:01:07 GMT -6
We have that rule at our school. I think it is stupid. The logic behind it is- if they are busy coaching they won't be able to have the time to be administrator. The real reason - the school doesn't want to pay someone to take care of the problems at games. They want the administrator's to come to the games and play cops for free.
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Post by tvt50 on May 16, 2007 9:07:11 GMT -6
Deans are allowed to coach but Asst. Principals are not.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 16, 2007 11:04:58 GMT -6
Part of the reason I came back here (small school Nebraska) is that I could be a coach and administrator. At my last school in Colorado (large school/large district), I could not do both.
After having been Principal/AD and Head Football... there is no reason why someone could not do both (or all three) jobs. Honestly, with some exceptions (and those depend on the dealings of the moment), being a Principal is no more work than being an English teacher of 6 classes of 4 sections with 35+ per class.
Some of that may have to do with large districts feel administrative duties are more time consuming (which is probably true)... but a lot of that is that the "powers that be" don't want some ol' football coach to be the principal because that may send the "wrong message of athletics being too important".
We miss out on some of the best administrators because of policies like this... and I can understand there are situations where it might be discouraged- but any mandates with such inflexible finality are generally bad ones that hurt the students by blocking good people from important positions.
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Post by kloranc on May 16, 2007 11:15:17 GMT -6
A lot of it probably has to do with that mindset that some teachers and administrators get about athletics. "Athletics gets everything they want. Academics will suffer!" We all know that this attitude is baloney and what would really happen to academics if athletics were gone! This attitude seems to hang on out there though.
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Post by 3rdandlong on May 16, 2007 13:40:29 GMT -6
This is the dillema that I'll be having when I get close to 30. I will have my admin. credential, but I'll also want to coach. I don't know of any administrators who are head or assistant coaches in So. Cal. This is a problem because my passion is obviously football, but I sure would love to make administrative $$$$.
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Post by superpower on May 16, 2007 13:52:05 GMT -6
Aren't many of the fb coaches in Texas also serving as ADs?
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SetHut
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Post by SetHut on May 17, 2007 19:57:12 GMT -6
In WV, some school districts (county board of education) allow it and some don't. Sometimes it just depends on who you are (politics).
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Post by midlineqb on May 17, 2007 23:04:09 GMT -6
When I was in Oklahoma I was a middle school principal, 5th/6th football coach, 7th/8th football coach, HS football coach (head in all of these), 7th/8th Boys Baskeball, and 7th/8th baseball coach. I also drove the bus to games. This was a very small school but I didn't do a very good job at the principal's job, especially during football season. Our school had no problem with that. My personal belief is that a principal should not coach. An assistant principal or AD should be able to do both jobs. In Kansas most schools frown on the principal being a coach, some frown on the AD being a coach. JMO
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