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Post by groundchuck on Dec 23, 2005 13:50:47 GMT -6
Can a gun spread team control the clock as effectively as a "traditional" style of offense is supposed to be able to do. You hear that gun spread teams cannot control the the clock but I look at South Lake-Carroll and they seem to not have a problem there b/c they run so many plays. Controlling the clock really seems to be about running more plays. Converting more first downs means getting more plays right? So I would think a gun spread team that can run the football can chew up big time of possession numbers.
Okay...discuss.
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Post by tog on Dec 23, 2005 13:53:37 GMT -6
i think a gun spread team that can catch the ball and move the chains can then run the football
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Post by coachjd on Dec 23, 2005 14:42:00 GMT -6
I think Northwestern and Bowling Green are 2 great examples of spread teams that control the clock. They are run first teams.
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Post by sls on Dec 23, 2005 16:31:43 GMT -6
Bubble and 1 step passing game. This past year we had a 17 play drive, 15 play drive, a 13 play drive, and many 10 to 12 play drives. You have to be able to run better than we could this year because ytou will eventually see press with cover 2 over the top. If you can't run the ball then you have to count on your vertical game and that gets tough.
I have been posting a lot about the Gun Spread in the last couple of days. IT IS AWESOME. We were very good offensivly with average to below average atheltes (one good receiver) who had never won anything on the football field because we executed extremely well.
Can you play catch? That is the question!
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Post by los on Dec 23, 2005 22:00:07 GMT -6
We're still trying to learn how to do it on friday night! They play catch great mon-thurs but come friday night we seem to get the "YIP's"
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Post by toprowguy on Dec 24, 2005 8:13:57 GMT -6
I think you can also control the clock and the tempo of the game in the no-huddle spread. As long as you change the tempo up and have a slow tempo both can be accomplished.
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Post by sls on Dec 24, 2005 9:29:09 GMT -6
Just throw and throw and throw. Rip but, run, pushups, and up downs for drops. Start thrwoing 3 days a week before school in March, april, May. At least 40 minutes a week of 7 on 7 or 2 on 2 during a summer per week. Throw in as amny 7 on 7 tournaments as you can. we played in our 20th 7 on 7 game before everything clicked for our QB. I was starting to panic because it was the 3rd saturday in July and we were pretty bad. All of a sudden, we ran our mesh (shallow crossing routes) the QB made a godd read, he came back to me and "Coach, I get it" and from there on we could throw the ball.
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Post by saintrad on Dec 24, 2005 10:59:52 GMT -6
according to Mike Leach TOP is only important so they can have more opportunities to score.
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Post by airman on Dec 24, 2005 12:26:03 GMT -6
according to Mike Leach TOP is only important so they can have more opportunities to score. leach also believes in extending the time of the game. he said this in the ny times mag article on him. TOP is for sports reporters. bill bellich balt ravens coach said it best, turnovers and explosives win games, not TOP. homer smith has said TOP is a myth as well. |
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Post by saintrad on Dec 24, 2005 22:19:09 GMT -6
amen airman, amen
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 25, 2005 12:40:52 GMT -6
Can someone give me an example of sequencing plays in the spread (gun spread). I understand basics but can I get a primer on series football from the gun spread. It is an area I want to learn more about.
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Post by tog on Dec 26, 2005 13:51:06 GMT -6
ok
a series of plays to run just working on DE's
jet to widen
gt to the jet to kick out the widen de
zone t to the jet to make the tightened down de play technique and not get reached thinking
it is jet
bunch mesh off of the jet
bubble to to the jet
backside post when they rotate the secondary
zone option away from the jet
speed option into it
for no jets
it would be not so series oriented
zone
gt
speed option
qb power
bubble
half roll sprint out
hitches 3 step game
the plays themselves dont really work series like due to the action so much, but the concept of one play affecting others in a series works about the same
most of them deal with the psde, or jockeying with the force player getting too tite and not respecting #2
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 26, 2005 19:26:06 GMT -6
there can be compliments in the passing game as well........
don't overlook how pass plays can compliment each other just like run plays can.
"complimentary" can also mean this (from gun spread)...."what can we run with the back set left of the qb?"....zone right, qb gt left, etc...... those are complimentary as well.
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Post by tog on Dec 26, 2005 21:07:46 GMT -6
there can be compliments in the passing game as well........ this was what I was trying to say, it does go together so much with the pass and run with the spread, especially controlling #2 |
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