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Post by jcarbon2 on Dec 9, 2007 9:00:16 GMT -6
You know its a tradition here to ask this every year. Now that most states are done or almost done or a week away from finishing football season.
What teams made it to the big show with the least and what did they run??
What teams made it to the big show by running the ball 90% of the time, out of any full house back configuration, and only used 4-6 plays? (Note: Please mention formation and short description of what they run. Example: Smith Center, KA. Wishbone/inside belly aka double dive.)
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Post by lochness on Dec 9, 2007 10:12:17 GMT -6
In the two top divisions in my state:
D1:
Double TE Wing-T team
vs
Shotgun Spread team with QB and RB both 1,000 yard rushers
(Double TE Wing-T team won 14-2)
D2:
Straight-T team
vs.
Veer Option team
(Straight-T team won 14-13)
Both champions meet the description of what you are looking for (I count the 2 TE Wing-T team as "fullhouse" because both HB' are in position to carry the ball). They each ran about 5 or 6 different rushing plays.
Wing-T team:
Power
Belly
Trap
Buck Sweep
Double Dive
Straight T team:
FB trap
HB Power
QB Keeper
FB Toss
FB Belly G
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Post by coachnichols on Dec 9, 2007 12:02:48 GMT -6
jcarbon2--you mentioned Smith Center, KS, dare I assume you are in Kansas?
I can't speak about all the state champions here in Kansas, but I think the best team in the state is Hutchinson, who just won their 4th title in a row. Flexbone - Power, Belly, Trap, Iso/Dive, Veer, little bit of boot action. Very simple, very effective. I know other than Smith Center and Hutch, I believe at least one other state champ (Garden Plain) is VERY much a run first team with their supposedly D1 tailback.
I've never seen Smith Center play, but I know you can't honestly say Hutch is great because of their offense. I know some old schoolers would say that, but it has more to do with their superior weight program, great coaching, and total buy-in 365 days a year by the players. The HC there has done a tremendous job. When I was in high school, we beat Hutch every year by 4 or 5 TD's. They were terrible! Now, 10 years later, they're the best in the state. Now we could talk about how they would do versus other state's greats, but that's a whole other topic.
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Post by jcarbon2 on Dec 9, 2007 12:26:17 GMT -6
Lochness,
That is New Hampshire?
I champions: Pinkerton (Derry, NH)
II champions: Exeter (NH) (this team has gone 32-4 over the last three years and has played in the championship game three straight times and the third time was the charm. Funny thing is that of those four losses , three are from Bishop Guertin.
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Post by jcarbon2 on Dec 9, 2007 12:32:03 GMT -6
Coach Nichols,
Nope, I am not from Kansas but have been following the program (SC) for about two and a half years. Just like schemes that a youth coach could use. I do agree that if you can have the kids buy into the 365 days a year football program you will get results. I would imagine that all teams ranked in the USA-Today super prep 25 follow similar programs.
"Wing-T team:
Power
Belly
Trap
Buck Sweep
Double Dive
Straight T team:
FB trap
HB Power
QB Keeper
FB Toss
FB Belly G"
It is always the same plays. Do you think I am on to something? LOL.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 9, 2007 13:25:54 GMT -6
AA- Hybrid Wing T
A- Shotgun Zone Read
B- I Formation
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Post by superpower on Dec 9, 2007 17:19:18 GMT -6
jcarbon2--you mentioned Smith Center, KS, dare I assume you are in Kansas? I can't speak about all the state champions here in Kansas, but I think the best team in the state is Hutchinson, who just won their 4th title in a row. Flexbone - Power, Belly, Trap, Iso/Dive, Veer, little bit of boot action. Very simple, very effective. I know other than Smith Center and Hutch, I believe at least one other state champ (Garden Plain) is VERY much a run first team with their supposedly D1 tailback. I've never seen Smith Center play, but I know you can't honestly say Hutch is great because of their offense. I know some old schoolers would say that, but it has more to do with their superior weight program, great coaching, and total buy-in 365 days a year by the players. The HC there has done a tremendous job. When I was in high school, we beat Hutch every year by 4 or 5 TD's. They were terrible! Now, 10 years later, they're the best in the state. Now we could talk about how they would do versus other state's greats, but that's a whole other topic. Smith Center's success, like Hutch's, is less about the offense they run and more about a complete dedication to the program by the players, parents, and community. |
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Post by lochness on Dec 9, 2007 19:18:28 GMT -6
Lochness, That is New Hampshire? I champions: Pinkerton (Derry, NH) II champions: Exeter (NH) (this team has gone 32-4 over the last three years and has played in the championship game three straight times and the third time was the charm. Funny thing is that of those four losses , three are from Bishop Guertin. Yes sir! Class programs and class coaching staffs for both programs. Championships don't happen by accident. Where are you from (if you don't mind my asking)? |
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Post by neil on Dec 11, 2007 9:00:34 GMT -6
Louisiana:
5A - Destrehan - Spread (Champion) vs Acadiana - Split-back Veer (Runner-up)
4A - Bastrop - Spread (Champion) vs Shaw - 1-Back Running team (Runner-up)
3A - Parkview - Flex-bone Option (Champion) vs Westlake -1-Back Running team (Runner-up)
2A - John Curtis - Split-back Veer (22nd State Champion) vs St. James - Wing-T (Runner-up)
1A - South Plaquemines - Spread (Champion) vs West St. John - Multiple-I Running team (Runner-up)
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Post by ex-centralcoach on Dec 11, 2007 9:18:43 GMT -6
geez JC did you already get bored with my outside zone stuff.....
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Post by tedseay on Dec 11, 2007 10:16:32 GMT -6
geez JC did you already get bored with my outside zone stuff..... Coach: Don't take it personally -- John's just like that. He's a "moving on" kind of guy...  |
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Dec 11, 2007 10:48:46 GMT -6
Nebraska:
Class A Omaha Central- Multiple One Back. Ton of Athletes... first year they've won it all (new coach last year who did a lot with nothing at previous school).
Class B- Crete- Multiple 2 and 3 back. Probably ran wishbone the most, but I wouldn't call them a wishbone team.
Class C1- Pierce Multiple 2 and 3 back. A lot of formations
Class C2- Wakefield- Wing T.
Class D is 8 man, so we're a bit different
D1- Elgin Pope John- I on occasion, a lot of 8 man Pro (TE and FL Strong, SE weak, 1 back)
D2- Chambers Unbalanced Slot, Some Gun/Single Wing stuff. A lot of shifting/motion. They were behind all game, won in the last few minutes over a good I Option team (Elgin. They run a few plays very well... 12-0 going in... their last loss was, ironically, to us 42-18 in last years quarterfinal). Elgin lost some key guys before/during the game which hurt a lot.
Kind of a neat story in class D... Elgin (pop about 730) had their public and private school play in the title games. First time that has happened I think.
D3 is 6 man... I have no idea what they did (I think Elba won... they were pretty bad in 8 man a few years ago).
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Post by jcarbon2 on Dec 11, 2007 12:35:44 GMT -6
Guys,
Thanks for the heads up. Good stuff.
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