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Post by chorizo on Sept 19, 2007 12:14:52 GMT -6
I would like some discussion on film review, motivation, discipline.
I have only coached a few years and I would like some input from more experienced coaches on how you handle what you would consider poor play.
First off we are 0-3 and lost 10-7 last week
The other day at film review I witnessed some ranting that, well
I think was uncalled for. The boys ,15-17 year olds got chewed out big time by some of the coaches. Some could find only a small hand full of plays that were just OK. On and on they went about no heart, no courage, poor play, F- ing {censored} ...
I was really starting to feel it was wrong, the verbal abuse these kids got from the coaches.
I'm not trying to overstep my bounds as I am an assistant, but I found several things good about the game. We played hard for 48 minutes and several play both ways. We played good
defense giving up 175 total yards. The kids never gave up. We rushed over five yards per carry.
I have tried to pick the boys up and show them some good points but it seems they have lost confidence in themselves and the coaching staff.
Question:
Is it OK for the less experienced assistant coach to point out the good stuff others don't acknowledge?
Am I too soft on the boys?
How far can a coach go with criticism?
Ideas for motivation/ confidence?
I respect your opinion. Thanks
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Post by superpower on Sept 19, 2007 12:47:38 GMT -6
Did the coaching staff preview the film together prior to showing it to the team? That is a good way to find both positives and negatives to point out. To me film study should be just like a classroom - a learning opportunity.
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Post by wingt74 on Sept 19, 2007 13:03:34 GMT -6
I'm not very big on just yelling and screaming at kids period. It's not coddling. My yelling and screaming is very quiet. I take them out of the starting lineup, and put them on the bench with an explanation as to why.
Seems to get kids pretty fired up
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Post by gacoach on Sept 19, 2007 13:07:59 GMT -6
My belief is that if you keep telling a kid how bad he is, he's going to start to believe it. When I watch the film with the OL, I point out technique and never question their heart. If I feel they've got no heart, they won't be playing anyway. I don't know what your staff is like but is this standard operating procedure, yelling at them, instead of coaching them?
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Post by fbdoc on Sept 19, 2007 16:37:53 GMT -6
We always review film in 2 groups - O-line and D-line /DE in one room and everyone else in the other room. 2 coaches per room. Smaller player numbers helps cut down on the chit-chat and the 2 coaches per group usually prevents things from getting too one sided.
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Post by brophy on Sept 19, 2007 16:48:48 GMT -6
if your staff doesn't grade performance, then (IMO) all performance is subjective
What determines a good play from a bad play is executing a specific assignment.
They either did or they didn't.
The purpose of film is to illustrate what needs to be done, and you can clearly see if a player did or did not.
If your team is struggling with confidence. Sometimes, continuing to pile on is pointless. Cutting up the film to show all the spectacular plays the kids CAN make, may help them begin believing in themselves again.
But, again, the superflous comments like "My mother could do this..." "You are softer than a ...."
don't really serve much of a purpose. You show them how they are supposed to line up, identify their threat on the given play, and their effort to that end, and the technique used.
It is actually pretty simple....sometimes we make it harder than it needs to be.
When film concludes, it should be clear, definable areas for each player to improve on......and nothing should be left up to 'emotion' or assumption.
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Post by midsfan on Sept 19, 2007 17:40:02 GMT -6
I am young coach as well and I think it is important to look at what they did right first and ask them what their assignment is and correct from there. If that doesn't work you bench them instead of b***h them. Actions speak louder than words.
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Post by cjkal30 on Sept 19, 2007 18:05:04 GMT -6
I have been a part of staffs that yell and scream and one that talk to the kids and talk time during film to teach and show hoew to improve. I think it is important to show them the good things they are doing as well as the bad.
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Post by ryp3 on Sept 19, 2007 18:11:07 GMT -6
I always start of with the point, "Nothing is ever as good as it seems or as bad as it seems."
I start film sessions by asking the players what aspects they think we did well on and what aspects they feel we need to improve on. I put this list up on the board. This is a guided list. The players do a good job of bringing up the areas that are focused on that week (especially if it is an area that is emphasized all the time)
In my experience the list of "improvements" is quite similar to what the coaches saw on the film. However, there may be some things they might not have a clue about.
Watching the film is a TEACHING time. Would you scream at a kid, or call them pu**ies or whatever, if it happened to be a review of how they did on an English, Math, History test?
Its all about balance.
Give them some positives to go along with what they need to improve upon. Even if the only positive is that they managed to snap up their chin strap correctly.
Break down the whys of the play. Why we didn't pick up the first or why they broke a long play. Usually it is correctable, teachable things.
"D-line, we had the correct alignment we got off the ball well, but we did not pursue 100% to the ball"
No one needs to hear that they are horrible players that can't get a job done. When speaking to a specific player I try to mention that although I am going to point out Jimmy's inability to stay on his block on this play it is something that our entire O-line had trouble with this game.
You can't judge speed or intensity on film, from your team or the opposition.
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Post by coachcoyote on Sept 19, 2007 22:00:28 GMT -6
I've always approached film as a learning experience. Point out the good things, but don't downplay the bad things. Praise will go a lot farther than just yelling. It isn't coaching if you aren't correcting. Correct the technique and rep the correction until it's what you want.
I used to let the kids grade themselves and they were usually tougher than the coaches. Admitting you screwed up is tough, but it is a self test you must acknowledge.
Like the idea of listing the improvements needed. This was included in the self eval.
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