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Post by cmow5 on Nov 15, 2007 10:42:32 GMT -6
Why isn't George Selvie (USF) on the list for the Lombardi award?
He leads the nation with 27.5 TFL (4 away from the record) and has 13.5 sacks which ties him for the lead. Schad from ESPN said he is not on the list because he was not on the pre season watch list for the Lombardi award and the voters did not feel like writing him in including schad. Why even have the award if you have voters like this. Just thought I would see what you guys thought.
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Post by wingt74 on Nov 15, 2007 10:58:20 GMT -6
It's all about the ratings.
How is going to care about this award when it goes to a kid at a lesser known school?
You get ratings with schools like LSU, OSU, Virginia, and Michigan.
Thats why awards are silly...with the Heisan being the worst of all
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Post by cmow5 on Nov 15, 2007 11:11:36 GMT -6
I agree I just think it is un fair for a kid to bust his but to be one of the best at what he does and never get recognized for his accomplishments. Also, USF has had some success this year it is not like he is at FIU or FAU. I guess at the beginning of the season no one thought about USF, but still how hard is it to write a name in a box.
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Post by phantom on Nov 15, 2007 11:27:49 GMT -6
They talked about this on ESPN the other day. The problem is that he wasn't on the original
watch list. It seems that they start with a preseason list that gets pared down as the season goes on. He wasn't on the list because he was good but not great last year. That doesn't make it right or fair but explains it.
The awards are getting out of hand. There's a Ray Guy Award for the best punter. Umm, wouldn't that be the guy who's the punter on the All America teams?
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Post by cmow5 on Nov 15, 2007 13:27:58 GMT -6
Phantom,
ESPN Joe schad said at any time in the year a voter could write any body's name in. Why couldn't some one do that. If I was a voter I bet you I take the time to find out more information on the people I vote on. Also heard one of the AP voters said that since he did not see any of USF's games then he wouldn't rank them that high because he doesn't know about them. I know this stuff has been going on for ever just thought I would vent a little.
No not a USF fan, just a college football fan and the Irish, but is that college football?
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Post by deaux68 on Nov 15, 2007 15:58:22 GMT -6
The same reason DJ Hall didn't make the Biletnikoff (no way I spelled that right) semi-finalists. There's like 15 of them.
Are you trying to tell me that he's not one of the 15 top WR's in the nation? The guy is like 280 yards away from being the all-time leading WR in the SEC.
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Post by slydaddy on Nov 15, 2007 16:06:52 GMT -6
This is because of the midwest media bias. 2 guys from the big ten, one from the big 12; you mean to tell me that there is not one linebacker in the SEC, Pac-10, or ACC that is worthy? Bull....oh and I am sure when the other awards finalist are named, the majority will be from Big Ten schools. The Big Ten cannot hold the jock of the SEC, PAC-10, ACC, Big 12, or even the Big East. Just an opinion!
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Post by phantom on Nov 15, 2007 18:19:37 GMT -6
Phantom, ESPN Joe schad said at any time in the year a voter could write any body's name in. Why couldn't some one do that. If I was a voter I bet you I take the time to find out more information on the people I vote on. Also heard one of the AP voters said that since he did not see any of USF's games then he wouldn't rank them that high because he doesn't know about them. I know this stuff has been going on for ever just thought I would vent a little. No not a USF fan, just a college football fan and the Irish, but is that college football? Sounds like we heard the same interview. These guys are lazy. I'm not sure I'd even call it laziness. They have jobs to do. Voting for the Lombardi/Butkus/Guy awards are a small part of their job. |
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Post by cmow5 on Nov 15, 2007 18:31:43 GMT -6
I think if it is to much for them to handle then just let the fans vote. It is a popularity contest any ways or let people like us do it. I know I spend about 10-15 hrs a day 365 days a year doing something that has to do with football I will get the right people there.
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Post by phantom on Nov 15, 2007 18:47:17 GMT -6
Coaches? They're horrible at it. We have no idea what's happening outside of our bracket.
That's not a criticism. We're busy. Stuff like who wins the Lombardi? Who cares?
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Post by cmow5 on Nov 15, 2007 18:51:00 GMT -6
Good point.
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Post by eickst on Nov 15, 2007 19:08:14 GMT -6
Unfortunately unless they appoint a full time committee for these awards they're typically just popularity contests.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2007 20:01:06 GMT -6
slydaddy, that has to be the first ever reference to "midwest media bias"!!
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Post by slydaddy on Nov 16, 2007 6:28:09 GMT -6
It was either say that or something like "Every Idiot Sportscaster Worships the Big 10", so I shortened it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2007 19:53:34 GMT -6
Not sure I agree with that. Most analysts seem in agreement that the Big Ten has been really down the past couple years.
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