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Post by coachbw on May 23, 2006 7:11:59 GMT -6
What offense would you run against a team with a lot more talent than you (particularly on the lines?) Would them having much better lines take away the advantages of running option, Double Wing, etc?
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Post by coachnorm on May 23, 2006 7:27:27 GMT -6
To me your offense has to be based on your talent level and abilities, not your opponent's. That being said the whole point of the option, Wing-T, Double Wing, Spread is to find some way to give your players an advantage. Each of them has a different philosophy and each is fundamentally sound in that philosophy (no matter what some on here would lead you to believe).
The key is to find the scheme that works for you and your players.
Find something that your players can execute and that will give them the best chance to win.
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Post by cqmiller on May 23, 2006 7:32:50 GMT -6
Wing-T, and Veer/Triple option
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Post by blb on May 23, 2006 8:03:30 GMT -6
Two quotes to consider from L. L. Holtz:
"Have a system that gives you a chance to beat the best team on your schedule. The rest will take care of themselves."
"The option forces defense to out-execute you, not just out-personnel you."
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Post by bulldog on May 23, 2006 9:42:23 GMT -6
While I agree with coachnorm, my choice would be Spread. Double Wing and Wing-T are run-oriented offenses that rely on play-action. The Spread can be much more balanced and is suitable to run or pass on any down . . . and it can be coordinated to take advantage of any defensive alignment.
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Post by groundchuck on May 23, 2006 9:49:24 GMT -6
Though I think option is probably the best way to go, it is really all based on personnel and how much better they are up front than you are. Here is a thought, and I have had games where this has happened. The other team is so thoroughly shutting down your run game that play action has no effect. The DBs know the front 7 are killing you so they just keep backpedaling. What do you do then?
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Post by poweriguy on May 23, 2006 11:00:42 GMT -6
Screen and draw the living heck out of em.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2006 12:30:57 GMT -6
I am more worried about defending a superior team than finding a way to move the ball on them. I think any package can find a way to move the ball at least a little bit but you can't punt on defense.
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Post by knighter on May 23, 2006 12:38:23 GMT -6
DW...angles and double teams help smaller, slower, weaker OL defeat bigger, faster, stronger DL. Also play calls in the DW can put any DL in conflict depending on what he is doing each play.
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Post by groundchuck on May 23, 2006 13:00:49 GMT -6
I am more worried about defending a superior team than finding a way to move the ball on them. I think any package can find a way to move the ball at least a little bit but you can't punt on defense. I totally agree. There is nothing worse than watching a superior team move the ball down the field and your guys are just not able to stop them b/c they are simply physically out-manned. So vs more talent...you better make sure your kids understand they need to get in the wt room and get bigger, faster, and stronger so they have a chance. But like I said earlier I think option gives you a good chance from a scheme standpoint. |
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Post by tye2021 on May 23, 2006 13:51:59 GMT -6
Wing T and DW, use misdirection. You can also get a solid option game going out of either of these formations as well.
Discipline is key no matter what. Usually a team that is out right stronger and faster tend to foget about their responsibilities. If you are disciplined and consistant on offense, especially out of the wing-t or dw, you could take advantage of their mistakes.
But 1st find out what kind of talent you have and use that knowledge to choose a system that you are comfortable teaching. Becuase if YOU CAN'T TEACH IT...... it doesn't matter what you do you are going to have problems.
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Post by firebird on May 23, 2006 20:48:54 GMT -6
I couldn't agree more. Last year we were basically out talented every game because we were playing all sophs and frosh vs. varsity teams and we found ways to move the ball just fine. Averaged around 30 points per game, and couldn't stop a soul. We gave up over 60 points 4 times last year.
I have coached in spread, west coast style, split back veer, and wing t systems and think they can all move the ball vs. superior talent. You will have a much more difficult time stopping the other team when they are on offense.
IMHO!
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Post by airman on May 23, 2006 21:21:39 GMT -6
Prayer might be a effective tool. remember, little david beat the giant.
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Post by coachdawhip on May 24, 2006 8:03:49 GMT -6
You have to get your defense ready 1st as other coaches have said, on offense wing-t - rocket sweep, with a little dw, power toss and of course the DD series, what a playbook
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Post by blb on May 25, 2006 7:38:58 GMT -6
Holtz also said, "If the other team is bigger, faster, and stronger than yours, you better get off the bus throwing the football."
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2006 8:03:08 GMT -6
Diamond T for the same reasons Knighter listed for DW!
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Post by chiefscoach on May 28, 2006 17:59:23 GMT -6
What is the diamond T?
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Post by tedseay on May 29, 2006 4:22:44 GMT -6
What offense would you run against a team with a lot more talent than you (particularly on the lines?) Would them having much better lines take away the advantages of running option, Double Wing, etc? To quote the Great Inscrutable Sage of the South™, Homer Smith: You need to build misdirection, action passing, and run-action passes into whatever you do on offense. Some systems are better suited to this than others. To my mind, the Fly offense offers the best platform for deception in a balanced running/passing attack. |
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