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Post by coachbama15 on Dec 18, 2007 9:10:39 GMT -6
I have a player that played as a kick returner, receiver and QB accumulating 3218 years and 43 TDs in 27 games in a running offense. I have kids that play in the SEC and this guy is a much better all around player than those guys. He is a full qualifier. Fantastic baseball player.
Here is the problem, he is 5'6, 165 and runs a 4.55. Every college says he is too small. Only one college has even been willing to look at tape because of his size and they may not have a scholarship.
Has anybody else had this problem with a great athlete?
Does anyone know of a college, I know there are many on here with great connections, that is looking for a great return guy/receiver?
Small D-1 or D-2 school would be great.
Thanks guys
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Post by brophy on Dec 18, 2007 9:14:22 GMT -6
well.......
what are his ACT/SAT scores and GPA?
Community involvement and financial situation.
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Post by coachbama15 on Dec 18, 2007 9:36:34 GMT -6
Alright,
Active in church. He is a member of FCCLA, FCA, and Bible Club.
He plays basketball, football and baseball. He has run some track, when I could steal him. He has ran numbers between 5:10 and 5:25 in the mile having never even trained.
His mother is on disablity, divorced and his father has a decent not great job.
He is having the same the issue in baseball. He is one of the best centerfielders our staff has seen. The baseball coaches both were starters in the SEC and say he is comparable but he is so small people get scared off. He runs a 6.95 60yd in baseball.
He is a qualifier with a 2.8 and a 16. Early in his academic career he did not apply himself but has worked hard to improve the past 2 1/2 years.
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Post by dubber on Dec 18, 2007 11:14:46 GMT -6
If the athletic scholarship thing falls thru, I have an alternative.
Some may see this as "selling the kid short" (no pun), but really he'd get the best education and experience of his life playing D3 ball at a small private liberal arts college........while they do not give out athletic money, they are very generous with low-economics and non-traditional circumstances (mom's situation).
Listen, this kid is looking at a walk-on......and most walk-on's get discouraged and leave school all together. This kid's education is what matters, and small liberal arts colleges are going to prepare him way more than state U.
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Post by coachbdud on Dec 18, 2007 11:51:42 GMT -6
you will probably be best looking for a small D-1 or D-2 who runs the spread. Your guy seems like he would be a good fit as a slot receiver
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Post by touchdowng on Dec 18, 2007 18:36:02 GMT -6
5'6 slot receivers are tough to find at any level much less D1 or D2. Are there any out there now?
There are plenty of 5'10-6'1 guys who play the slot and run faster than 4.55 - That is just the reality of the situation
I agree with a past reply about him going to a D3 school. Somewhere where he will be given a chance to succeed. He could walk on at D1,1AA, or 2 but will they EVER give him a chance? Iwould be rooting for him but I won't hold my breath.
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Post by burtledog on Dec 18, 2007 18:45:52 GMT -6
Naia and Div 2/3 does sound best for him. There are many such schools in the south east which seems like your region.
Greg
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Post by briangilbert on Dec 18, 2007 18:47:18 GMT -6
If you think he can play at the MAC level I would send film to Kent State. Eugene Jarvis was our TB and he's similar in size. If he can make plays he could play there.
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Post by zwaps on Dec 18, 2007 19:16:09 GMT -6
Maurice Jones-Drew is also too small to play
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Post by brophy on Dec 18, 2007 19:26:21 GMT -6
If this kid is a Senior, there is not much you can do NOW
if you are in the South......call up some JUCOs if you think he is that special and hopefully he can "walk-on" there. If he is as special as you say (4.55 is rather slow for DI prospect) then at least he'll get an opportunity to play right away without expensive tuition
if you are in the North....you might be able to find a JUCO, or your best bet will be DIII. Many DIII programs have very creative ways to supply financial assistance for student-athletes....but the kid has to be serious about a degree to go that route.
College recruiting isn't "American Idol", get those kids registered with the clearinghouse and get their exposure and SAT/ACTs out of the way so they CAN be recruited.
5'7" 165...4.55 doesn't show much promise to invest 5 years developing at DI / DII levels.
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Post by biggroff on Dec 18, 2007 19:50:52 GMT -6
Might want to think about the JUCO route. Since he is a qualifier he can play one year at a JUCO and then transfer.
JUCO football is a D-1/D-2 level of football. If he can play there he can get a scholarship to a D1 or D2 school. JUCO schools are always taking chances on players that 4 year schools will not.
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Post by aztec on Dec 18, 2007 20:18:01 GMT -6
As I read the above is what colleges said about Mike Patterson who played at USC. Most teams didn't want him because he was not tall enough, but coach Orgeron thought he was a player. He ends up becoming an all American and a first round draft choice. BTW is is when Pete Carrol just showed up at USC.
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Post by captain31 on Dec 18, 2007 20:33:51 GMT -6
If he went the D-3 route he could also play baseball since it sounds like he's a stud with that too.
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Post by coachbama15 on Dec 18, 2007 20:46:31 GMT -6
Well thanks guys. I appreciate the help.
Back to Brophy though....I have been doing this a long time and I understand the recruiting process. I have guys that now start in the SEC and more than 15 that have received scholarships to play. I understand that it is a little late and all of our athletes register with the clearinghouse during their tenth or early fall eleventh grade year. Actually, he was well recruited early by several D1 schools but they cooled over his size.
I am in Alabama and a couple D2 schools are looking at him to return kicks and possibly play the slot. He is very good athlete and will sign to play baseball no matter what but I am doing my best to help him receive the best possible opportunity to get an education.
I have also seen many get picked up late so I am trying.
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Post by midlineqb on Dec 18, 2007 23:05:59 GMT -6
I am in Alabama and a couple D2 schools are looking at him to return kicks and possibly play the slot. He is very good athlete and will sign to play baseball no matter what but I am doing my best to help him receive the best possible opportunity to get an education. Coach, I wish more coaches were like you, trying to get the best possible opportunity to get an education. Sounds like he might have a tough row to hoe if he doesn't get a scholarship somewhere. Keep up the good work. |
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 19, 2007 17:10:12 GMT -6
Wes Welker was small and he is in the NFL...... Hmm what about Barry Sanders..... Quinten Griffin.... You are only as small as you make yourself!
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Post by tye2021 on Dec 19, 2007 17:24:54 GMT -6
Coachbama15,
I wish I a had a coach like you when I was in school. I love the fight you are fighting for your player(s). More coaches should take the same approach for the kids that sell out to their program. Keep up the good work.
And as a guy who is only 5'5 I am rooting for your youg football player.
Good luck
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Post by goldenbear76 on Dec 19, 2007 17:46:27 GMT -6
I definitely would look at JUCO route. Its a great option for (inexpensive option at that), for a kid to prove that he can handle the big boys despite his size. The better quality JUCO he goes, the more looks he'll get.
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 19, 2007 19:15:03 GMT -6
coachgoodnight...they are unfortunately outliers...lol.
The problem is that as a recruiter...if you miss small...you get in trouble with the bosses. When the 6'2 225lb guy who runs a 4.5 guy shows up and can't adjust and play.....hey, everyone thought he was a can't miss. When the little guy shows up and can't play..everyone thinks you should probably look for another job.
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