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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 11, 2008 8:36:19 GMT -6
How many states have an '8 quarter rule'? In SC players can dress for 8 quarters a week. They can participate in 2 games during a calender week.
For larger programs:
Back ups get to get on the field for Thursday nights as a starter and get the in game reps. They then can get a little mop up duty on Friday night to experience being under the big lights.
For Small schools:
Now a coach does not have to worry about what to do with a back up that is needed in case of an emergency. That underclass man that is a 2, still gets to play on Thursday night and if the situation arises, is availiable to play for an injured starter.
I see this a huge plus all the way around. They way I look at it, the players does all that work, wants to get to suit up and play: That is his reward.
Is this the rule or the exception in most states?
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Post by morris on Feb 11, 2008 8:40:42 GMT -6
I do not think we have anything like that in KY. I do not know some states had limits on the amount of time a player could play. Now I can not imagine a kid playing more than 8 in a week nor can imagine why a state would want to limit a player to a set amount of playing time during a week
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Post by chadp56 on Feb 11, 2008 8:43:09 GMT -6
In Michigan, if you play at all in one game, you can't play in the other. So you have to decide if you want a sophmore to play on JV or Varsity, because he can't play both.
It seems like in your system, that less kids would come out for varsity because they get pushed down to number 3 by younger players on game day. Also, it seems like there would be more younger kids getting banged up because they get to play more quarters. Have you found either of these to be true?
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Post by mike13 on Feb 11, 2008 8:55:13 GMT -6
In Virginia we have a 40 quarter rule. Each player is allowed 40 quarters during the regular season. A kid could play a JV and varsity game in one week. We always schedule fewer JV games then varsity just in case we need to move a kid back and forth.
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Post by morris on Feb 11, 2008 9:03:21 GMT -6
We do not have a ton of large schools. Yes we do have cases where a soph could start on Friday Nights and sometimes some SR may move down to 2nd and 3rd. We do not see th eyounger kids getting banged up because if that was an issue they would not play varsity or play veyr little. Most teams do a good job of balancing it out and get the guys on the field.
Now if a kid starts on Fridays then he does not play in JV. There are some cases where a kid woudl play JV so he could work on O or D. For us it comes down to school size.
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Post by highball007 on Feb 11, 2008 9:12:35 GMT -6
Here in Oregon players are allowed to dress and play 5 quarters a week. Same rule for basketball as well. It makes it hard to know if you should play a kids for 2 or 3 quarters in the JV game Thursday night. You might play the kids 2 quarters and then come find out you don't need him or can't get him in on Friday so now he should have played all four quarters.
It is a screwed up rule, that needs to be looked at again, by the OSAA.
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 11, 2008 9:13:29 GMT -6
Chad, the injury thing is a possibility, but if you have someone who is going to play a lot of downs on Friday, you probably don't want him playing alot on Thurs. or even at all.
So far as the numbers, I think the opposite is true. If you are a JV/9th grader, then even if you play on Thurs, you will still get to dress on Friday night and even might get to get 'to show off' on Firday night in front of the crowd.
When this came in, I was working at a small school. We might be counting on a 9th/10th grader to start for us next year, but if he was the back up, before he couldn't get any game reps to get ready. So he sat on the bench all year long and only saw junk time for his efforts.
Now I am in a different situation. Most players shouldn't expect to start on varsity until their senior year. Without the 8 quarter rule, again if he is a 2, then he will not get anytime under the light to get ready for being a starter.
I just see this as a positive, because most kids just want to wear that jersy and play, regardless of what day of the week it is.
So far as the numbers on varsity, we have been in the 130s+ range, but of course winning helps with that. Actually we have used it as a big motivator, because we have a limited nuber that dress on Friday, so the underclassmen has to really show something to get those extra 4 quarters.
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 11, 2008 9:16:40 GMT -6
i have heard of the 5/6 quarter rule, but that seems like another headache to me.
With the 8 qtr rule, you can play them as the situation dictates.
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Post by realdawg on Feb 11, 2008 10:11:36 GMT -6
In NC the 8 qtr rule means they can play JV on Thursday and dress for the Varsity game, and play 8 qts FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON on Varsity. After that you either have to leave them up or down. (1 play=1 qtr)
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Post by superpower on Feb 11, 2008 10:14:14 GMT -6
2 games in a calendar week in KS
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Post by rideanddecide on Feb 11, 2008 12:00:58 GMT -6
2 games/week in Wisconsin.
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Post by phantom on Feb 11, 2008 12:12:12 GMT -6
In Virginia we have a 40 quarter rule. Each player is allowed 40 quarters during the regular season. A kid could play a JV and varsity game in one week. We always schedule fewer JV games then varsity just in case we need to move a kid back and forth. The beauty of this rule is that it's basically unenforceable. |
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Post by realdawg on Feb 11, 2008 12:21:22 GMT -6
In NC we have to turn in paperwork each Monday on kids that played on Thursday and dressed on Friday and how many (if any) qtrs. they played
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 11, 2008 13:43:59 GMT -6
1 game only in CA
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Post by 20x on Feb 11, 2008 13:55:18 GMT -6
In Iowa I believe its something like 14 games in the regular season. But special teams won't count as playing in the game, also if the game has achieved the 35 point running clock then that won't count as a game either.
Again there is no way you're going to be able to enforce the rule. At the smaller high schools in becomes really tough to only play your younger kids in only 14 games.
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Post by beatdown on Feb 11, 2008 19:46:27 GMT -6
Two games a week in Oklahoma, his includes freshman, JV and varsity; any combination.
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Post by touchdowng on Feb 11, 2008 20:05:40 GMT -6
Washington
40 quarters for the regular season. I think the smaller schools have a little more relief on this due to smaller numbers.
No more than 4 quarters in a 72 hour period.
Special team plays do not count towards quarters.
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Post by coachdearborn on Feb 12, 2008 1:38:10 GMT -6
In Kentucky, we do not have any restrictions on how much a player can play for the week or season. I am curious if states implemented the rules for any certain reasons. The reasons that come to mind are that injuries would decrease due to less playing time, increased participation, and keeping coaches from playing varsity players at lower levels to maintain fair competition. Can anyone comment on the rational behind their state adopting these restrictions?
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 12, 2008 7:58:29 GMT -6
Before, a player could only play 1 game a week. I think the change came for 2 reasons, for increased opportunities like I have already mentioned and the other was because technically if you get a rain out and reschedule for Monday, that was 8 quarters in one week.
Also, I failed to mention that the 8 quarters cannot be played on the same day, our freshman and JV games are the same night so you couldn't use your freshman kicker in both games, etc....
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