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Post by WB22 on Oct 23, 2007 16:40:39 GMT -6
Coaching here in southern Ohio, the prospects are pretty good for a REALLY muddy game this Friday. The field doesn't have much grass, so it will be mud, not just wet grass. Does anyone have any advice - schemes ? keeping balls dry ? Footware ? etc. I'm just trying to find some sort of edge.
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Post by tothehouse on Oct 23, 2007 17:05:37 GMT -6
Fake really really well.
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Post by coachcalande on Oct 23, 2007 17:12:20 GMT -6
run wedge and traps with lots of misdirection behind it.
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Post by Yash on Oct 23, 2007 17:39:11 GMT -6
Win the field position. don't be scared to quick kick rather than run a null play on third down.
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Post by poweriguy on Oct 23, 2007 20:34:14 GMT -6
Walk the field before the game. See where the water and field damage are.
Is it chewed up in the middle?
Is there grass toward the sidelines?
Is the footing better from the 20 on in, than mid-field?
Does the water drain more to one sideline than the other?
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Keep your game balls isolated from everybody and keep them dry! The kids will want to grab them for warm ups, don't let that happen.
Adjust your warm up. Don't have kids running and stretching in the mud.
Have change of clothes. If the kids could bring extra under garments and change at half, that would help. And as a coach, have a change of clothes too! Wear rubber or snow boots on the side line, because the kids just walking all game on the side line with cleats will crew it up real fast. And it sucks riding home on the bus soaking wet and covered in mud.
Game wise:
Throw early! Your first possession will most likely be your only chance to throw the ball. so take a few shots down the field early. Play action will work great since everybody is expecting run.
If the defense is really coming up field hard, throw a screen, if possible.
If there is grass along the sidelines (say grass from the hash to the sideline), run to the grass.
Don't be afraid to qb sneak insted of a run call. We got 4+ yards every sneak we called.
I agree with coach calande, wedge works great!
That's all I can think of, so good luck.
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Post by tog on Oct 23, 2007 20:49:22 GMT -6
throw the ball more than most would think secondaries have issues in this situation
the wr's know where they are going
had some big passing nights when the field was a mess
center has to scoop the ball and the qb has to lay it out there a little more, but can usually get some wide open people in these conditions
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Post by lsrood on Oct 24, 2007 7:09:48 GMT -6
Have your running backs protect the ball. Keep dry towels available for the center & QB so when one gets wet it can be changed. Ball dry is available, we use it and it helps keep the balls fairly dry. Throw the ball when they least expect it, but if you have a good line and can dominate up front just have the back put two hands on the ball and pound the rock. Three fours equals a 1st down. Tell the kids to have fun and remember all the backyard games they played in the mud and the kick they got out of them.
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Post by wingt74 on Oct 24, 2007 7:14:42 GMT -6
Played in a game like this last year. Usually, the areas between the #s and the sidelines are in decent shape. Run some quick screens...or screen-&-Gos. 1 on 1. Just try to get the ball out of the mud into better footing.
Also agree on the Wedge. Tighten your splits and try to pound the ball. I believe power is where it's at in mud games. Also - Don't be afraid to run simple QB sneaks to bubbles.
Good advice on the dry towels too
CENTER! Almost forgot. Center should practice snapping with two hands. Both hands on the ball at least 1/2 way through the snap motion.
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Post by superpower on Oct 24, 2007 12:31:52 GMT -6
ENJOY IT! Mud games almost always turn out to be fun.
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Post by airman on Oct 24, 2007 12:43:08 GMT -6
punt. the punt is the best offenisve weapon when it comes to field position. you are going to laught at this one.
I went to college at a wishbone school. our coach was sort of a goofy guy. he took all the risk out of every thing. well, a decade before I got to college in the late 1980's they had a game in similar conditions. it had rained for days, field muddy and was raining on game day. he punted the ball back to the other team on first down. sure enough, on this wet, muddy rainy day the other team misshandled the ball on there only 12 yds line. we went in for the score.
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Post by brophy on Oct 24, 2007 12:51:01 GMT -6
make sure you give the entire field a once over before the game, or at least have your guy in the box monitor areas of the field. No field is created equal, in slop games (with no grass) you will typically have pockets of depressions that collect more water than other areas on the field.
Use these to your advantage, or be aware of where you are (to avoid them). Typically, around the numbers in the 20's gets tore up pretty bad. Also, depending on the pitch of the field and how it handles runoff.
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Post by jhanawa on Oct 24, 2007 22:44:56 GMT -6
funny you should bring up mud. We had our kids intentionally practice in a 15yd patch of mud and scrimmaged for the entire practice, in the mud. Ran nothing but wedge against goaline D. It was a great "man maker" experience, all of the soft prissy kids got dumped in the mud, by the end of the scrimmage it looked like NFL films from the sixties, the kids LOVED it. Every since, we've been running our wedge GREAT!!! Now they want me to flood the game field.....LOL By the way, we put in double dive off the wedge action from shotgun, its a sweet series, wedge, second back through, slot reverse off the double fake, and a pop pass off of it. It's really added to our attack, that and getting our QB back from a broken hand....
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