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Post by coachdbs on Nov 7, 2007 10:37:49 GMT -6
suburban school that has an inner-city feel? Do you struggle with kids taking on a leadership role....having a good work ethic....taking care of grades...being a team player...etc.? I believe that we have a solid group of coaches who work their tails off but we just cannot seem to get this program on track. I would like to offer some ideas to our HC and have a few things in mind but am curious to hear what kinds of things some of you do while coaching in a similar situation. Examples might include leadership and work ethic classes/speakers, etc.
Also curious to hear from coaches who have been in a similar situations and eventually experienced some success. We took over a program that had been good during its early years but had taken a turn for the worse (after new school built 5 miles up the road) with the last 2 years being the laughing stock of the league. Our first year was a struggle but pulled out 3 wins. In our second year, we went 6-4 with a first-round loss in the playoffs. Years 3 and 4 have been frustrating with records of 3-7 and 2-8. Any success stories with a similar start??? Sure could use a pick-me-up after another frustrating season.
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 7, 2007 11:18:56 GMT -6
This is not really directed at you but sort of a personal button for me...
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY ANY COACH THINKS SOME KID IS GOING TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE UNTIL A COACH HAS TAUGHT KIDS HOW TO BE LEADERS.
what I mean by that, I have heard countless coaches say "we lack senior leadership" or "we have an attitude problem" etc...look man, its your team , your program , you lead and you teach your coaches to lead, eventually some of the kids MIGHT become leaders WHEN THEY ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for things. IN the end its the coaches own fault if no leaders emerge either from his staff, from himself or from his team in the end. Just my opinion and again, I dont know you or your situation just a button of mine because of comments some unmotivated coaches have made in my presence in the past. want leaders? develop leaders and lead by example.
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Post by brophy on Nov 7, 2007 11:37:57 GMT -6
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY ANY COACH THINKS SOME KID IS GOING TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE UNTIL A COACH HAS TAUGHT KIDS HOW TO BE LEADERS. word to big bird.............. I've coached at a few "inner city" high schools, and the important thing to do is get a reality check. Kids are kids. They have to be taught. teach LEADERSHIP, mentor LEADERSHIP, expect LEADERSHIP. |
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 7, 2007 11:54:28 GMT -6
Been doing this coaching thing for a few years now. YES, you have to teach leadership, just like you teach blocking and tackling! But, just like some kids are not very good blockers or tacklers, you can have a kid - or a group of kids - who struggle with the skills of leadership! I'm at a college prep Christian school and we generally have some pretty good kids. However, I've had 2 groups of seniors come through since I've been here who just flat out were not leaders - or even worse, they lead, but in a negative way! Coachld - don't let one group of knuckleheads bring you down.
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Post by coachdbs on Nov 7, 2007 12:14:53 GMT -6
Thanks and I do understand that we need to develop and build leaders....and we definitely don't fall into the unmovtivated category. I think our problem has been that we have gone with nothing but the "lead by example" philosophy which has not worked. We work our arses off....always on time....always coaching on the field, in the weightroom, etc. We have had several reps stop by during practice or in the weightroom and have received positive feedback from them in terms of work ethic but we have still have problems with leadership. In my 4 years with the varsity program, I can count on one hand how many times I have heard one of the kids get after someone else on the team. My recommendation to our HC is going to be leadership classes. I have a powerpoint that I picked up from another coach but still looking for any other ideas that might be of use.
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Post by brophy on Nov 7, 2007 12:43:51 GMT -6
I kinda outlined our template for a school similar to yours (where another school opened in our district to divide our talent pool). But it kind of illustrates in a more detailed way the what/how we went about creating the environment for competitive leadership. coachhuey.proboards42.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1193409864&page=2there comes a time to TELL........DEMONSTRATE.....MODEL.......TEACH..........then EXPECT.......hold them accountable. its not enough to 'be ready' you have to give them a proving ground (* authority) |
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 7, 2007 12:53:44 GMT -6
Are there any good websites that teach leadership that would be good to read and to point kids toward as well. I know that we are ever evolving creatures and I could ALWAYS use more pointers to become a better coach. Thanks in advance.
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Post by warrior53 on Nov 7, 2007 21:37:07 GMT -6
It is so good to be back on here and hear you guys talk about this stuff I have belived in since I got into this gig.
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Post by mike13 on Nov 8, 2007 7:25:39 GMT -6
Caoch Goodnight go to WWW.Mark1.org and check out their Student Athlete program. It has a section on leadership among other positive character traits. |
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Post by coachdbs on Nov 8, 2007 8:49:29 GMT -6
Has anyone used the stuff available on Mark1 website? Looks like great material but kind of expensive to purchase the program.
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 8, 2007 12:37:35 GMT -6
There are many programs out there to purchase that are different versions of the Core Leadership Program. Select the true leaders of your team. Let them "draft" the remaining kids onto their team - 4, 5, or 6 teams depending on how big your squad is. Players earn Team points through attendance, academics, and, citizenship, along with practice and game performance. Track the points and post them each week. Winning team gets a t-shirt, a big mac, or some such reward. Losing team gets conditioning, extra clean up and the like. Again, this is not rocket science but something that you do ACTIVELY to build leadership and camaraderie on your team.
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