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Post by tog on Jul 22, 2005 22:24:08 GMT -6
how do you get your scout teams to give a good look?
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kakavian
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Post by kakavian on Jul 23, 2005 10:00:15 GMT -6
As a youth coach, this is my perennial problem child. I rarely have enough kids for a FULL 11 on 11, and putting coaches in there does two things, 1) Frustrates the kids cause they cant hit the coach, and because they are bigger, faster, and in the case of younger coaches, a little too eager to show they still got it.
2) Doesn't give the OL a solid look.
We have tried incentives, like if scout D gets a INT, Sack, and a Fumble recovery they dont have to run sprints except for "Glory sprints" at the end, but its tough.
If you dont have enough guys half lines work OK for the defense, but you dont get to work against coutners and the like as much, For the offense however, it doesnt provide a very good look, and the O cant work as much on THEIR counters and the like. Sure you can flop the line, but then everyone knows what's coming.
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Post by gamedog on Jul 23, 2005 20:36:54 GMT -6
KW we have always done the same thing.
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Post by phantom on Jul 25, 2005 11:50:37 GMT -6
We film group and team segments of practice and when we show the players the tape we critique the scout team players as well as the players who are being serviced. We try to impress upon the players that practice is a place to work at becoming a better player whether they're working with the 1st team defense or the scout offense.
We also try to get the best available players on the scout team. Although our players go both ways, it usually shakes out that most of our OL are not in the defensive rotation. They'll know that on defensive day they're playing scout team and that we'll be watching them. Some years the starting QB plays defense and soe he doesn't. If he's not a defensive player, he's going to QB the scout team. The HC makes it clear that the QB is NOT to be hit. The best way for a defensive player to ruin his whole day is to hit the QB.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jul 25, 2005 18:59:43 GMT -6
I remember in college, one of my good friends on the scout team hit (actually slammed to the ground) the starting QB twice. The first time the coach yelled at him for being an (expletive) freshman and too stupid… etc., etc. The second time, he screamed at him and said “Olson…get off of my field”, he jogged by me, smiling, saying, “at least he (the HC) knows my name now”. I don’t tell my scout team that story…. Anyway, one year when we had 15 players (yes 15) and two were hurt, out scout team consisted of two players, 4 coaches 2 managers and some cones. We didn’t get a real good look from them… game time was about the only good work we got that whole year.
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Post by tog on Jul 27, 2005 12:46:22 GMT -6
bluto
if the kid could do that, he should have maybe been a starter on defense?
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Post by jonnyboy on Jul 27, 2005 14:52:37 GMT -6
we let the scout team "taunt" the varsity squad on every 8 yard gain...so if the "scout offense" gets a bootleg for a 10 yard gain they get to "razz" the varsity.
it's good because...
---the defense can't retaliate and get a 15 yard penalty...scouts get to be as cocky as they want to be, defense talks with their pads
---emphasizes that every play is important, focus for the whole duration, no plays off
---one 10 yard play can make a scout teams day...it's like golf, you shoot a 98 but remembering the 4 good shots you had makes you want to come back for more
---kids have to shake hands after its all said and done, we let them know that they are teammates and the mature player will not bring it to the lockerroom with them
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