fish
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Post by fish on Dec 26, 2005 22:26:48 GMT -6
everything we put into the computer is for the defense. on offense, our oc gets most of his information from watching film and jotting down notes.
does anybody here input the opponent's defensive information on their computer? if so, what information do you want from it? how do you categorize it? and how does it effect your gameplan?
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 26, 2005 22:30:40 GMT -6
as you might have figured out already....we use dsv
what we do is to break down the game by labeling the following for each play:
down/distance/yardline
offensive formation
play type (run/pass or can get more specific - trap, 3-step, screen, option, etc.)
defensive front
DL stunt
blitz
coverage
this allows us to do reports however we choose. also allows for quick and easy pulling of specific clips to watch.
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 26, 2005 22:33:55 GMT -6
by the way....we scored on our first possession in 7 games this year. missed fg (but scored on 2nd drive) in another game.
i attribute that to our staff's game planning, with our scouting program (dsv) being a big part of that.
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fish
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Post by fish on Dec 26, 2005 22:47:42 GMT -6
i think it would be a big help if we did it. i think it eliminates even more of the guess work. we had a good season this year, but i think offensively we spent more time looking at the line up to our formations and not enough looking at certain situations.
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 26, 2005 23:05:32 GMT -6
#1 defense is "formation D".......scouting really helps this.
obviously, a defense will "change" week to week based on what the offense does. but, by breaking down each play by formation and play type we could get a feel for what the dc liked to do vs certain schemes. also, it gave us a general idea of when he preferred man or zone (down/distance) as well as the downs/distances most likely to see a blitz. gave us most common blitzes & stunts. showed us what formations really made them predictable (had 1 or 2 fronts for it, etc.)
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Post by aztec on Dec 26, 2005 23:09:42 GMT -6
I use DSV as well. We were their first customer in 99 or 00, can't remember now. I love how much the software has improved. I use it on the D side so I am little to no help on this topic, but thought I would put in my $.02 about DSV
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Post by Mav on Dec 27, 2005 11:40:13 GMT -6
For breaking down upcoming opponents we input:
general - down/dist/los/hash/pass or run/gain/coaches comments
for our defense - formation/motion/playname/result(inc-comp,TD,fumble,sack,etc)
for our offense - front/stunt/blitz/coverage - in our league we find most teams are very simple/vanilla. You can get through a game pretty quickly.
In addition to our typical scouting and game planning, we create 10 minute cutups for each Varsity player to take home and review on vhs or dvd. Usually about 7 minutes of opponents offense and 3 minutes of defense. It's a condensed video showing a few plays from the base D, some blitzing, stunting, and coverages. During the week we quiz the players on who they're up against, tedencies, strengths/weaknesses,etc. You can quickly tell who's studied the film. We have after practice light conditioning for players who 'fail' the quiz - they usually only fail once. Not because of the conditioning, but because they're being called out for not being prepared.
We use Proscout, which we recieved for free last year through a donation.
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Post by thurman on Dec 27, 2005 14:02:18 GMT -6
We use Microsoft Access for all our data base stuff.. We plug in all of the offense and defense.. offense we put in down, distance, hash, formation, strength, play, side, ball carrier, result.. On defense we put in down, distance, hash, formation, blitz, slant, coverage, break (linemen taking a playoff), result.. We then can go back and get any combo of any items we want.. play vs down and distance.. ball carrier vs down and distance.. hash vs play.. all this without buying any software..
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Post by Mav on Dec 27, 2005 14:21:56 GMT -6
We use Microsoft Access for all our data base stuff.. We plug in all of the offense and defense.. offense we put in down, distance, hash, formation, strength, play, side, ball carrier, result.. On defense we put in down, distance, hash, formation, blitz, slant, coverage, break (linemen taking a playoff), result.. We then can go back and get any combo of any items we want.. play vs down and distance.. ball carrier vs down and distance.. hash vs play.. all this without buying any software.. fyi - Proscout uses Access as it's database. The substantial benefit you get from the application is the video clips are linked to the database info. You get all of the benefits you mentioned from Access with the video added for creating cutups, highlights, etc. All for the same price as Access... FREE. Check it out - it's quite a deal. We heard about it on another board last year and figured we'd give it a try. No downside, it's all in Access anyway. If you're doing all the work to enter the data anyway, you might as well have the video directly linked. |
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Post by sls on Dec 27, 2005 16:07:14 GMT -6
For the cost Pro scout Video is the best! Maybe not as good as some, but the cost is awesome. I think it wil be the most widely used video program in High school with in the next few years!
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