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Post by cmow5 on Dec 21, 2007 23:44:43 GMT -6
I was going to ask this question a while back, but it slipped my mind.
This year I had 2 or 3 kids call me just by my last name. It only happened once with them. I did not punish them I just corrected them and it never happened again. My question is what do you coaches prefer the kids call you? Do you make sure when the talk to you it is Coach (last name), coach, sir or are you more tolerant with it and have a nick name they call you or what. I guess my old fashioned up bringing and short time in the Army comes out and I prefer to have the kids call me sir or coach. Just curious if I am making a mountain out of a mole hill and I should relax.
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Post by bulldogoption on Dec 21, 2007 23:51:00 GMT -6
I think it is preference. But bottom line from my experiences (which aren't that impressive) is that how much the kids respect you is more important than what they call you in the long run/bigger scheme of things.
I would prefer all my kids called me coach or mr. but I get some nickname/shortened last name. It doesn't bother me as much because I can sense more respect than I used to sense.
Also, very few kids have that Army background you do. They don't know any better.
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Post by coachnichols on Dec 21, 2007 23:51:09 GMT -6
Coach (last name).
I make all players say "Coach" first. As far as sir goes, (IMHO) kids don't use that much nowadays. It just seems to be one of those things that's not being taught to them as they grow up. It would be a good thing to teach to your players, again, IMHO.
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Post by k on Dec 22, 2007 1:20:03 GMT -6
On the field coach, coach lastname, coach first initial of last name, coach first name are all fine.
In the classroom I'll take any variation of the above except for the first name. Mr works just fine as well.
At no time do I tolerate the use of just my last name. Pet peeve.
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Post by goldenbear76 on Dec 22, 2007 4:19:08 GMT -6
Coach (last name), Coach, or Coach (Letter). Not a big "sir" or "mr" guy yet..would prefer just coach lol.
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 22, 2007 4:47:03 GMT -6
I have done a 180 on this. It used to be a big deal to me if a kid didnt say "coach" before using my last name. I think that sometimes over time a kid will get so comfortable and feel so close to his coach that he slips up and just throws out the last name. I think its a good idea to suggest he use the term "Coach" if he wants to keep it short.
let me ask this...do you use the boys first and last name or just his last?
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Post by wingt74 on Dec 22, 2007 5:34:59 GMT -6
On the field coach, coach lastname, coach first initial of last name, coach first name are all fine. In the classroom I'll take any variation of the above except for the first name. Mr works just fine as well. At no time do I tolerate the use of just my last name. Pet peeve. Same here. I've never had a kid call me anything other than "Coach" or "Coach Steve"
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Post by coachjd on Dec 22, 2007 8:31:00 GMT -6
Coach (last name) only!
We do not call our kids by their last names either. We call them by their first names.
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Post by minterj on Dec 22, 2007 8:54:10 GMT -6
let me ask this...do you use the boys first and last name or just his last?
I love nicknames for the kids. Makes them feel special.
I think the key here is not what's right and wrong, but what's your style.
You can't demand respect because of who you are. You need to earn it and to do this it doesn't matter what the kids call you it's how you treat each other.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Dec 22, 2007 9:03:21 GMT -6
I call a lot of the kids by their last name only. They can call me whatever as long as it's respectable. My big respect thing comes with saying "yes sir/maam" or "no sir/maam" when answering questions. I have ran guys off of the team because they refuse to say it.
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Post by tedseay on Dec 22, 2007 9:10:36 GMT -6
I make a point of addressing the players as "Mr. Smith", "Mr. Hobbs", etc., and of referring to them collectively as "Gentlemen".
For a lot of kids these days it comes as a shock at first, some even think I'm joking. The funny thing is, once they realize I'm not, a fair number of them start acting more like gentlemen to each other and to me -- I've even seen some spillover effect with teachers, parents, peers, etc.
Combined with a realization that I honestly care about them as people, I find this is an effective way to maintain both discipline and team cohesion.
And none of this stops them from understanding that I want the snot knocked out of the other team before a hand goes out from my guys to help them back up...
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 22, 2007 9:47:56 GMT -6
On the field or during football it is Coach Goodknight, in the classroom it is Mr. Goodknight. I am first and foremost a teacher and then I am a coach. I have gotten lots of compliments from the higher-ups because to them they say it conveys to them that I place education first then athletics which is the utmost importance in the educational setting.
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Post by cmow5 on Dec 22, 2007 9:50:25 GMT -6
I use different terms when I am talking to the kids. I have used first and last name together or one or the other, have used nick names. I guess it just depends on the kids name and what is the easiest to say. I know growing up I always used sir, mam, mr or ms. I was actually one of the worst kids around, but I still used sir, mam, etc... when I talked to teachers, police, SWAT team, bomb squad. I guess the whole respect your elders comes to mind for me. I know they can still respect you and use your first name. I would have to agree with the comfortable response. It was the kids that I had to stay after practice and wait with them for there ride or give them a ride home(Jr High). At those times I am more relaxed and joke around with them a little more.
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Post by coachjimmer on Dec 22, 2007 9:51:01 GMT -6
On the practice or playing field, Coach _______.
In the school building, Mr. ______. School comes first before football.
Anywhere else, they can call me whatever they want - Coach or Mr.
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Post by touchdowng on Dec 22, 2007 9:59:00 GMT -6
We teach our kids to call all adults by their proper handle.
"Mr. Smith" "Ms. Jones" "Coach Johnson"
And we model this for them.
If a kid calls one of us or a teacher by their last name, we correct them. Most of my coaches will ignore a players if he doesn't say "COACH Smith". The kids then self-correct.
Not a big deal. Our kids are about 50% on addressing adults properly at the beginning of the season and are closer to 90% by the end.
I think that's what we call teaching. This isn't a hill to die on, just a place to help them grow.
We have teachers in our building who allow kids to call them by their last name and some with their first. This drives me nuts but you can see what a conflict this puts kids in. So many mixed messages that turn out bad habits.
So, we teach them our way but understand that it's a process.
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Post by morris on Dec 22, 2007 11:43:01 GMT -6
My players and students can call me any of the following Coach Morris, coach, Morris, or Mr Morris. As long as they do not call me by my first name I do not care. Now most will pick Coach, or Coach Morris. It tone that is importnat to me not the words as much. It how they respond to me when I ask or say something that is important.
Now players/students I call them mainly by last names unless they express other wise then it is first name or nicknames. It was easier for me to remember nicknames then names. We do have the plays say yes/no mam/sir. we also make sure they understand how they are to talk and act toward others.
I can see where with me that sends a mixed message a little but I when it comes down to it I do not care as much what the call me. I care that they do what is expected of them.
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Post by phantom on Dec 22, 2007 13:00:41 GMT -6
The players call us Coach ___. I teach at a different school so what they call me in the classroom is not an issue. We also make sure that all of the coaches call each other Coach ___ around the kids. I normally call the kids by last name although I'll use a nickname if that's what most people call him.
Something that I do is call the player Player ___. He'll say, "Hello, Coach Narvid." and I'll say, "Hello, Player Smith.". It's just kind of a joking thing that the kids kind of find funny for some reason.
At school sometimes (not often) a kid will call me by just my last name. I treat that on a case-by-case basis. Nine times out of ten I'll ignore it because it's not disrespectful. It usually happens when a kid sees me in the hall and is saying "Hello". Doesn't bother me in the least.
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Post by kboyd on Dec 22, 2007 15:07:22 GMT -6
Coach Boyd or just Coach. When my own kids are around the coaching staff they always call the guys Coach (insert last name here). This may be getting outdated but I still think it's valid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2007 15:23:15 GMT -6
As long as it's prefaced with Mr. or Coach, I don't care. This is one thing I'm now particular with. In my younger teaching days, I let the kids call me just "Fern" and it led to respect issues. Now, I don't have any problem with respect.
I don't know about the Mr. in the classroom and Coach on the field differences. When I was a high school student, I wouldn't have caught the emphasis unless it was specifically pointed out to me.
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Post by sls on Dec 22, 2007 20:13:03 GMT -6
Anything but A-hole. I make my players call the assistant coaches, coach. I really don't mind what thye call me as long as I sense no disrespect.
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Post by tye2021 on Dec 24, 2007 11:40:40 GMT -6
Coach Walker, Coach Tye, Coach ____, or just Coach it doesn't matter to me. However when I addres you you respond with yes sir/no sir.
Not teaching yet but I still expect the same. I don't care if they use MR._____ or Coach____. As long as they are respectful.
The players I like asking them what they would prefer to be called. I ussually start by calling their number until I can remember their name. Some kids have nicknames some we end up calling them by a nickname we made up. As long as it isn't disrespectful to the player or if he ask not to be called by it, I'll ussually stick to it.
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Post by leighty on Dec 24, 2007 11:56:50 GMT -6
This was a point of contention at my last job. The head coach called me by my last name only. I was 18 when I began coaching for him, so I was already fighting the repesct battle. I discussed the situation with him, and told him I felt he was undermining my authority, and his response was, "It's 2003. The days of Bear Bryant are over." I continued to voice my concerns, but it got to the point where he refused to address me as Coach _______ in front of the players just to spite me. Needless to say, I am no longer coaching there.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 24, 2007 12:17:19 GMT -6
sounds like you are better off..... I would have returned the favor to him as well.....
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 24, 2007 12:56:25 GMT -6
We are all Coach __________, or Mr. __________ to the kids. I always try and go the extra mile and refer to all staff as "Coach _______" in front of the kids even though some of the staff doesn't. That does not bother me.
Now if a coach as a generally approved nickname the kids might refer to him as "Coach (insert nickname). Like we had a coach who drove a Harley Davidson all the time and everyone called him Harley.......so a lot of kids refered to him as "Coach Harley" and nobody minded.
I have had some former players come back and still call me coach, others call me by my first name, but regardless it is about respect.
We refer to our kids by first name or first and last.
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Post by Yash on Dec 25, 2007 11:44:58 GMT -6
I have one of those last names that doesn't ever get pronounced right or flow with anything so I let the kids shorten it up. I don't mind if they just use the shortened version without putting coach in front of it. I prefer not to be called by my first name though. When I address the kids i use whatever is easier to get the point across. Usually there are more than one Kevin or John on a team so one gets the last name one gets the first name or a nick name. when I address the team as a whole I usually use "men" because I had a coach that always called us by men and I liked how it sounded.
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