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Post by ocinaz on May 19, 2006 20:45:42 GMT -6
Sort of have a dilemma....I usually put together our 7 on 7 stuff, I put our plays on index cards, and put the Play Name under the play on the card. I have done this the last 2 years, HC comes to me the other day and asked about our 7 on 7 plays. I told him that they were already done, and all it was, is our 3 step game that we have been practicing,mesh, curl/flat, even some of our Play action and boots. He then asked well what about just some 7 on 7 junk? I tried to explain to him that with such a young team and a new QB we should just run "our" stuff. HELP...How can I get him to understnd why I don't want to run 7 on 7 junk when we don't run it in the regular season?
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Post by bulldog on May 20, 2006 1:13:51 GMT -6
The problem that you are having is the exact reason that I am not a fan of 7-on-7 competitions. I think it evolves into a different game altogether. I see double wing teams running spread. I see Wing-T teams that live an die with play action running 7 step drops and three wides running verticals. I know that they will NEVER run these formations or plays in the fall. Then they let the QB sit for 9 seconds in the pocket. And they pass interfere on almost every play when they are on D.
I think the whole point of 7-on-7 is to get good at running the plays you will run in the fall. Just putting stuff in for the sake of winning a competition may be satisfying to the ego, but what's the point? I would rather just run our stuff and realize that 7-on-7 is a practice whose competiton aspect is really kind of silly and meaningless. That being said, lots of teams take these competitions seriously. So, we purposely only compete in a few to get our feet wet. Our philosophy is to have a limited playbook and be very good at what we do run.
One thing to consider - you may want to compromise and put a few plays in for 7-on-7 - if your playbook is limited. Is it possible that you might want to run the plays in the fall?
Of course, you might want to talk to the HC and see what his purpose is in putting stuff into the playbook. If you consider that you will take time to install the routes, work on the QB throws, practice the timing of the plays . . . do you have unlimited practice time? If not, something else will be displaced from your practice schedule. What are you going to reduce? Do you guys look great running your current playbook? Also, you might want to consider telling the HC that your plan is to get great at your base offense before putting in the extra stuff. If winning 7-on-7 competitions is one of your HC's goals then . . . . he either has lots of goals, or he is not focused. Good luck coach.
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Post by ocinaz on May 20, 2006 15:57:37 GMT -6
Thanks, I really didn't wanto to get into with him 2 days in a row about offense. Don't get the wrong idea, we are great friends, his first year coaching football was my senior year in hihg school, great guy, he has done things one way for years, so for somebody to come in and want to try and chacnge things he does is a challenge, we have our first 7 on 7 on Wednesday, so we will see.
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Post by seagull73 on May 20, 2006 17:10:04 GMT -6
Tell him what you think! 7 on 7 is only beneficial if you run your stuff. We even ran shovel option last year to send a message to our team that we will live & die by the option. I played against a double wing team that ran play action (we fell for it). My philosophy is to get your team comfortable with formations & motions in 7 on 7. The result isn't important as long as your team understands your objective.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 20, 2006 21:03:32 GMT -6
To me, 7 on 7 junk would only be valuable if there is a chance you may run it. We do not do any tournaments... we go against two teams in another classification just to give our LB,DB/RB,Rec. reps against an o or d that is much better than our scout team can offer.
A few years ago, we went to a tournament. We took 4th out of 12 and ran 2 and 3 back sets the whole time. A team that beat us (running empty all the time) was on our regular season schedule. We beat them 48-0 and 44-6... 7 on 7 is designed to help you learn routes, coverages, etc. I do not care if we can not beat everyone at "skelly" because we can not run Iso, Trap or Toss... so we cut our playbook by about 80%. We (obviously) are not a passing team, so our guys know if we are competitive in 7 on 7, we are doing very well... we throw more passes in two 7 on 7 games than we will throw all season.
Now I may run a play in 7 on 7 that we could use if down by 5 with 3 seconds left... but basically, we run the 4-5 passes we will run in a game. If we win all 7 on 7 games and get no better for the season, all it was was glorified conditioning. If we lose all games, but improve our passing game or coverage... we have accomplished a lot.
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