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Nov 23, 2005 22:56:04 GMT -6
Post by tog on Nov 23, 2005 22:56:04 GMT -6
what to run when you have no one that can catch?
no one that can run?
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Nov 23, 2005 23:21:38 GMT -6
Post by saintrad on Nov 23, 2005 23:21:38 GMT -6
retire
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Nov 23, 2005 23:22:04 GMT -6
Post by Coach Huey on Nov 23, 2005 23:22:04 GMT -6
I've lived that movie...............
basically, it sucks like no other.
just have to keep repping ball drills every single day.
lots of time in IND doing ball drills
jugs machine
balls on bungee cord
off season drills that start with handling a ball
"accountability" exercises for drops
finally, a kick in the nuts for screw ups.........lol
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Nov 24, 2005 8:09:50 GMT -6
Post by coachcalande on Nov 24, 2005 8:09:50 GMT -6
DOUBLE WING...REALLY.
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Nov 24, 2005 19:25:35 GMT -6
Post by Coach Huey on Nov 24, 2005 19:25:35 GMT -6
receivers can be trained. but, it must be a year round process.
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Nov 30, 2005 13:09:47 GMT -6
Post by senatorblutarsky on Nov 30, 2005 13:09:47 GMT -6
I have more of a dilema when someone can throw and catch. We've had 3 seasons with 0 TD passes. When I get someone who actually can throw and catch a ball- I have to adapt my system a bit.
p.s. I am posting a lot today b/c for the 3rd day in a row no school. At least we have power back on now.
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Nov 30, 2005 14:16:52 GMT -6
Post by tog on Nov 30, 2005 14:16:52 GMT -6
no need to apologize for posting
we need more
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Nov 30, 2005 14:54:22 GMT -6
Post by ogie4 on Nov 30, 2005 14:54:22 GMT -6
what to run when you have no one that can catch? no one that can run? Stress the importance of your Punt team. |
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Nov 30, 2005 15:16:17 GMT -6
Post by coachcalande on Nov 30, 2005 15:16:17 GMT -6
blutarsky, what offense do you guys run?
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ike2112
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Nov 30, 2005 17:26:54 GMT -6
Post by ike2112 on Nov 30, 2005 17:26:54 GMT -6
I had the same problem last year - some of our WR had awful hand-eye coordination. I got some good advice from another coach which seems to have worked. Coach Huey is right though - extra work on it is the best thing to help.
The advice for a drill was:
Have balls thrown to the players, and before the ball is thrown hit them with a pad. Then repeat hitting them as it's in the air. Then just before it gets there etc. Eventually they'll catch anything.
If they're fine in training but not in games, I like to tire them out before we do catching practice. You're not at 100% of your energy levels in the 3rd quarter when you need to make a clutch catch so you shouldn't be 100% when you practice it.
This is somthing rugby teams in UK have been doing a while - they do lots of running before the skills, because when you are tired your skill level drops. If you practice carrying out skills whilst tired, you are more likely to be successful in game situations.
I wish there was some professional study I could provide to back this up, but I don't know of any. But my (rugby) team has won our league two years running with same players we've always had, and not great tactics (not that there are many in rugby) and nobody with outstanding pace or size - we just concentrate better than our opponents.
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Nov 30, 2005 19:25:46 GMT -6
Post by senatorblutarsky on Nov 30, 2005 19:25:46 GMT -6
coachcal,
Well, now we are 8 man and run an I or wing... mostly DW plays (Toss, Trap, Buck Series)... not a lot of plays. When we were 11 man we were either Wishbone (usually 2TE) or Double Wing (had a SE a lot in that set), where we ran mostly wing-t stuff. I'm a big fan of the DW. This year we ran some direct snap single wing (lost a lot of players to injury by playoff time).
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 1, 2005 6:46:21 GMT -6
8 man?...
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Dec 1, 2005 14:22:39 GMT -6
Post by senatorblutarsky on Dec 1, 2005 14:22:39 GMT -6
Coachcal,
I've thought about that... but I need a FB. Our QB takes the place of the other wing back on counters. I spent 6 years in 5A and some other years in small schools where we would get 45 out for FB... this level is really different- not because of 8 guys, but because of depth. We had 13 players my first year back here... and most of the boys go out- we just don't have many. (We are not a small school... we are a tiny school). I've said before that often our starting Guard is a backup QB (OK, not often, but it has happened). In 2003 our offense was very balanced- in 04 our FB was our leading rusher (QB also had 1000+), this year, it was our QB, until our HB got hurt, we moved our QB to TB and ran most of our stuff out of an I (he had 55 carries in our last playoff game). I have seen some teams run the DW as you drew it up... and after watching Nevada, I really like the concept (I think a lot of what they do can be easily adapted to 8 man), and we can always use a motion back on the kick-out (and have done so), but our I am convinced that our offense works because our FB is 1) a good blocker and 2) a threat to take a trap 70 yds. I kind of concluded that for what WE do, putting the FB in a wing on a regular basis doesn't allow us enough variations off of our base play (the toss).
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Dec 1, 2005 15:11:30 GMT -6
Post by semiprocoach on Dec 1, 2005 15:11:30 GMT -6
I can feel ya on the no reciever situation. This season I had a qb from a D-1 school that could throw a 50-60 yd rope but nobody could catch it. I pulled my hair out all season. Finally gave up and ran double tights and gave the ball to my 6'5" 325# fb and we played smash mouth. I felt we could have done much better if I had recievers. At one point I told the QB to take a little off the ball, but his accuracy went in the bucket and I was right back where I started. We did have one game of brightness and we went 9-9, 260yds 3 td's passing in the first half. Then guess what happened in the second half...we still won the game though.
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Dec 1, 2005 22:22:54 GMT -6
Post by wildcat on Dec 1, 2005 22:22:54 GMT -6
No talent?
Run the ball on pretty much every down. Take as much time as possible between plays. Find a good punter.
If you keep the clock moving, you'll lose faster. The other team won't have as much of an opportunity to run the score up on you.
We had a gawdawful frosh-soph team a few years ago. I mean we were BAD every way you looked at it. However, we seldom got blown out because we just tried to keep the clock moving and played field position. We had a pretty decent punter, so we just punted as deep as we could and made the other team go 80 yards every time they had to score. We ended up 3-6, but only got blown out of the water in 3 games.
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Dec 1, 2005 22:40:39 GMT -6
Post by groundchuck on Dec 1, 2005 22:40:39 GMT -6
When you have no one who can throw or catch and are working with a limited number of skilled athletes my advice is to find your best athlete and stick him somwhere where you can get him the ball alot. Like TB and run the ball over and over. Control the clock, stress not turning the ball over and play great D and special teams.
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Dec 3, 2005 23:26:51 GMT -6
Post by cookiemonster on Dec 3, 2005 23:26:51 GMT -6
Not havejng good athletes at receiver also kills your outside running game because they are not quick enough on the edge.
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Dec 3, 2005 23:28:17 GMT -6
Post by tog on Dec 3, 2005 23:28:17 GMT -6
no kidding cookie
it's hard to block people on the edge when you can't touch them
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