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Post by groundchuck on Nov 29, 2005 8:10:48 GMT -6
Do you think there are regional influences regarding offense and defensive schemes? If so what are they?
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Post by tog on Nov 29, 2005 8:21:18 GMT -6
Just from general observations of looking around the country, Where it is cold and there are weather considerations, they run the ball more. Gross oversimplification. But basically?
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Post by ogie4 on Nov 29, 2005 8:42:45 GMT -6
Just from general observations of looking around the country, Where it is cold and there are weather considerations, they run the ball more. Gross oversimplification. But basically? Having played and coached in a cold region, and now coaching in a warm region, I think your pretty much correct. However, since Domes have come into play for the playoffs in late Oct and Nov. in states like MN, ND, and SD, passing and spread offenses can thrive a little more. Maybe I am just getting to be an old futty dutty, but back in my day MN had real winters by gawd (insert walk to school 2 miles in six feeet of snow uphill both ways) and none of these sissy falls they have been having the past seven/eight years. Shee-asta I have been deer hunting in 50 degrees the last seven falls in Northern MN in the middle of Nov. |
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Post by tog on Nov 29, 2005 9:03:49 GMT -6
nice willy wonka reference.
Do the teams up north not really have to worry about the weather until it is playoff time anyway?
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Post by ogie4 on Nov 29, 2005 9:13:06 GMT -6
nice willy wonka reference. Do the teams up north not really have to worry about the weather until it is playoff time anyway? weather is pretty unpredictable (duh) I saw one season with snow in middle Sept., then the next year it was 50 degrees three rounds into the playoffs. A lot of great passing teams in MN and ND have lost to lower teams when the Oct/Nov. Winds start blowing. I know my high school coach switched from a pass happy offense when he lost in the state finals in 1972 because of a Blizzard and they couldn't pass. In the next 25 years of his coaching career they probably only passed 3 times a game and he won a couple championships. |
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 29, 2005 9:20:17 GMT -6
We had a game in 2004 in early Oct where it was 30 degrees and snowing with 30 MPH wind gusts. Coached in a playoff game where the water bottles froze up it was so cold.
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Post by 53defense on Nov 29, 2005 10:43:05 GMT -6
Last week of the regular season, we had a blizzard/ice storm go through North Dakota. It shut down some schools for two days with power outages. The week before our first round play off game the snow melted and we practiced in the mud. The morning of our playoff game it snowed again. How is that for unpredictable weather? We try to be a balanced running/passing team because on the days that it is nice up here we will throw the ball if you stack the box. However, we still need to be able to put our game plan into low gear when the weather is ugly and grind it out.
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Post by brophy on Nov 29, 2005 10:57:08 GMT -6
I think there is a regional disparity to some degree in terms of what the local colleges / Universities run as well....it's what most accessible.
(ie Nebraska being a run-heavy option team in the 90's now a multiple short passing offense under Callahan...lot of the area schools made that switch as well).
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Post by saintrad on Nov 29, 2005 17:55:40 GMT -6
well, in Oregon it depended which university was closest... Oregon or Oregon State. Plus, geography in the state mattered also. Having grown up on the Oregon Coast most teams in our league were run oriented. We were veer, had 2 wishbone, multiple I teams and one was double wing.
In the valley, closer to the universities, usually were the passing teams. The team i just left was a 4 wide spread team and we were learning to incorporate the Utah stuff. Teams in the eastern part of the state tend to be more run oriented also.
Still learning about NM but it seems to be run but uses spread type formations. Give me time to figure them out.
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Post by vtjapes on Nov 30, 2005 7:45:19 GMT -6
I think there is a regional disparity to some degree in terms of what the local colleges / Universities run as well....it's what most accessible. (ie Nebraska being a run-heavy option team in the 90's now a multiple short passing offense under Callahan...lot of the area schools made that switch as well). This seems to be what I notice also. Seems like I see a lot of teams copying what the closest university is doing. Probably b/c they all go to the clinics at these universities. Also late 80's early 90's my HS in SW Virginia, was a power running team with a strong LB base Defense...the closest universities were Tennesee, Virginia Tech, West Virginia...and they ran similar teams...why...for one our coachese went to those clinics (couldn't afford to travel any farther we were a tiny school) and also our coaches played there. Sorry this turned into a long post just to say that I guess it depends on where you were taught football, and where you can go to learn more, which is usually regional. |
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Nov 30, 2005 12:01:00 GMT -6
RE: running teams in cole weather- in College I played in a conference in the North (Frontier Conf. MT schools...we also played OR, WA, ND and SD schools). Almost all ran west coast, run-shoot, etc. A lot of throwing. In NE, more teams have opened up, but the top programs generally follow "old school" Nebraska type offense. Where I see a lot of copying is within our own district... if we beat someone, I see that same team on tape a few weeks later- and they are running our stuff. If a good play beats me- I'll figure out how to use it against someone else (results on that vary a lot).
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