Punishment Conditioning

Stumbled in here looking for some fresh ideas. Here is what we do:

1/ Boards. We take the boy(s) to the baseball field with a 2x4 and we make them push it from foul line to foul like right on the lip of the warning track grass. The 2x4 doesn’t slide well at all. There is a technique to pushing it but that is something you will need to figure out on your own.

2/ Plate pushes. Grab at 45 pound plate and have the kid push it from goal line to goal like. It’s great for the quads.

3/ Log Rolls. Kids heave learned how to cheat these over the years so I will offer up a few pointers. Have them cross their feet and extend their arms over their heads while locking fingers. Puts a lot of emphasis to on the core.

If a kid is really bad just have them do a couple of sprints while mixing in a few exercises where their center of gravity shifts (i.e., burpees, up-downs, sky highs, etc.). This is guarantee to deliver some puke, which is a good reminder.

I've done all if not most of the above, but this is our HC's perspective:

If a kid screws up, we have quick reminders: late to the practice field, wearing jewelry... program stuff that a compound infraction - they dog the width of the field.

In the middle of a drill, a couple of quick updowns, pushups, etc... just as a quick reminder and back at it.

However, major infractions I.E. multiple times late to practice, multiple times barking back at coaches, infractions in school, etc.... the kid has to write a 500 word paper on why they did it and how they need to fix it. If they don't do it satisfactorily then they do it again until they do in order to play the next game.

Rationale is that if they jump off sides, loaf a play, etc... they need a quick reminder and then get back into the practice routine. If they are doing things that are heading down the road to being a cancer, then they need serious intervention and reflection.

I've really only done "punishment conditioning" on two occasions for 2 different players, both times with the mothers coming to me regarding a serious infraction at school (bullying a female student, being difficult/disrespectful with female teachers) and asking if I could help with the situation. Those kids ran hard: laps and hills, did sit-ups, pushups, you name it.

"punishment conditioning" for non school related stuff, I've had 2 players do multiple extra gassers/laps: one for bullying a teammate and the other for making a very inappropriate joke. Both were done within 10 minutes.

For anything less serious than that we will run a gasser or two to get their attention if they're acting up or not focusing. Its generally not an issues, I give them time to be teenage boys and then I make sure they're being serious at times - give and take. No Iron Fist here

wow,some of you guys are really jerks. How about "don't the play the kid" until there is contrition or the detrimental behavior stops?

I'm just going to add this:  I've had kids do a whole lot of punishment running, up-downs, you name it over the years.  Take a close look at that other thread on player deaths and keep that very much in mind when you're doing physical work as punishment.  I've moved very far away from where I used to be on this.

Yeah. They never have anything to say about the kid who doesn’t play already.

I will say this. I’m never in favor of making a kid puke but doing something that sucks to get their attention is fine IMO

Taking practice away from a kid who doesn’t play isn’t exactly punishment. And the reality for some coaches is that if you sit a stud athlete for behavior problems and lose then your job can be on the line.

I’m not sitting here arguing for excessive physical punishment. I think intentionally trying to make kids puke is ridiculous. I’m all for making him clean up the locker room for a month or whatever. I just don’t agree with the “make them sit out of practice/games is all you need to do”crowd.

We do an activity called "The Beast" at progress report and report card time. They get 1 for a D and 2 for an F.

They run the home stadium bleachers, then around the track and run the visitor bleachers, complete the lap around the track and come on the field. They then run and do 3 pushups every 5 yards down the length of the field, then crab walk back with 3 situps every 5 yards. That is 1. Keep their grades up and they never have to do it.

The other thing we do is for tardies to practice. The back of our practice field has retention pond (called the "pit' that is always dry because we're next to lake so it serves no real purpose). The kids have to log roll down-across-up the pond for being late. Also, if I have to wash their practice gear because they didn't take it home, I place it across the "pit" and they have to roll for their practice cloth. Usually only takes once and it's a quick reminder to be responsible.

Any kids being jerks at practice are going to lose playing time, but thankfully those experiences have been extrememly rare.

Both. Practice reps first, then game reps. When we meet in the morning, these issues get addressed as we are watching practice, doing the depth chart. Yes, we meet at 6 am to go over practice film, depth, talk about practice.  When we do morning practice, we will meet that afternoon or next morning pending events.

Now my boss aint stupid. A stud gets more rope than the back of the roster.

You find out real fast who is just being an A-hole and who wants to play football. Football players will come out and beat the shiiitt out of the guy in front of them the next day. And that behavior will get fixed. The A hole will take the next day off. Maybe Behave, but take the next day off, go half asss, lolly gag. Talent, no talent, makes no difference.
if you cant take care of buisness in school, at home, or in practice, how the fck are they going to do it in a game. And you want me, us to put those a-holes out there? Thanks, ill pass.

How do you get better when you are in jail? Or inelgible? Suspended? Or worried about your baby mama? Kissing your boyfriend(I am not joking) Or making up 3 weeks of homework? Skipping or not coming to lifts, install(so we have to explain it out on the field, stopping practice) Going half ass or just refusing reps, hiding in the back of a line in a drill, team period? “Do better!!!!” doesnt work.
if they cant go in practice, they wont go in a game, and I am talking about when they play in a game.

Once again, I have no idea where you get some of your stuff.  Where did I tell you to put someone out there?  Just the opposite--don't withhold practice reps and then let him play--IF that's what you're doing.  I asked that question for clarification and I was VERY clear that everyone should be held to the same standards....somehow you took that and went somewhere else with it.

No coach worth the title should play all those things that you list--except maybe the boyfriend thing since you have no context for where or when that is happening and I don't give a rip who he kisses as long as it's in an appropriate setting.