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Post by btillman on Jan 22, 2007 9:52:01 GMT -6
What type of things do you do for your varsity kids for punishment?
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Post by tribepride on Jan 22, 2007 10:03:48 GMT -6
We do a thing we call the "tiger run". (We only have about 35 kids 9-12) The teams takes off jogging around the practice field in single file line and then when a coach blows the whistle the kid at the end of the line sprints to the front. Repeat the process until you get bored or have proven your point.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 22, 2007 10:09:13 GMT -6
10 up downs.....then crab 10 yds.....10 up downs....crab 10 yds.....over and over at about 50 yds they are done.
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Post by superpower on Jan 22, 2007 10:51:32 GMT -6
FROZEN PUSH-UPS
Learned this one at basic training years ago. They start in the push-up position, and on command they lower themselves to just above ground level. They hold themselves in that position without allowing chest, knees, etc. to contact the ground. They only return to the start position when I tell them to, usually about 30 seconds or so. (Try it yourself and see how many you can do before your whole body is shaking uncontrollably.) A set of 5-10 frozen push-ups usually communicates very effectively.
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Post by toprowguy on Jan 22, 2007 10:58:50 GMT -6
We flip a Tractor tire up a hill a few times.
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Jan 22, 2007 12:19:06 GMT -6
We do a "Reminder". A Reminder is a 50 yard run with an up-down every 5 yards. If a player is late, they start at 50 yards and we add 10 yards for every minute they are late. Kind of funny, the basketball coach laughs everytime he uses the word "reminder" the football players perk up their attention.
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Post by realdawg on Jan 22, 2007 12:35:51 GMT -6
I got all kinds, run ten yards drop-get up run ten yards drop, etc... Run 10 yards, do 10 pushups, run 10 more do 10 more pushups. Run till the whistle blows, then crawl on your belly, log rolls, etc....
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Post by joboo59 on Jan 22, 2007 12:43:15 GMT -6
Coach,
If you have a player who has done something really bad, like get in trouble in school, try this. Have that student stand up in front of the team and explain themselves, at least give them the opportunity to do this. Then, line each and every player on the team, with the exception of that player, and have them do some form of extra condition while the player who committed the crime stands and watches his teammates run. Needless to say, that player will NEVER cause a problem again.
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Post by midlineqb on Jan 22, 2007 13:05:11 GMT -6
We have used for team punishment/conditioning, Circle Up. The players form a big circle with at least 5 yards spacing between each (we have had approximately 40 players when we did this). They are on their hands and knees facing counter-clockwise. We call for one player to take off and he does leap frog over the next person until he returns to his original position. After he leap frogs over one he takes off. This continues until the last player has completed his lap. Sometimes we will continue for 2 laps. We may also after one completion get them on their feet and do ups and downs.
For individual punishment/conditioning we have used the Halo Drill. In this drill the individual holds a tire above his head and runs 100 yards down and back. If the tire drops down over his head he comes back and starts over. His teammates are on the sideline encouraging him to continue. We have also used the Suicide. This is where the individual runs 10 yards and returns to start, then 20 yards and back, etc. until he has gone 100 yards and back. His teammates are encouraging him, some even run with him when he really gets tired.
These have worked for us over the years.
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Post by superpower on Jan 22, 2007 13:09:47 GMT -6
Coach, If you have a player who has done something really bad, like get in trouble in school, try this. Have that student stand up in front of the team and explain themselves, at least give them the opportunity to do this. Then, line each and every player on the team, with the exception of that player, and have them do some form of extra condition while the player who committed the crime stands and watches his teammates run. Needless to say, that player will NEVER cause a problem again. Right after Bob Stoops won the National Championship at Oklahoma, I heard him speak at a clinic in Denver. He said he used this discipline to run off a bad apple when he first took the job. |
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Post by rooster on Jan 22, 2007 13:17:03 GMT -6
We call them "reminders" as well. Our reminders consist of bear crawling 100 yards. A coach walks slowly, sometimes stops, and the players can not go past the coach or touch their knees to the ground. If the knees touch, we start over. Takes a good 4-5 minutes to finish.
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Post by 14hogz on Jan 22, 2007 14:19:37 GMT -6
A tuff one we do is to have the kids.
Bear Crawl 10 yds
Get up and back peddle 10 yds and then
sprint 10 yds
for the length of the football field (100 yds)
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Post by CVBears on Jan 22, 2007 14:29:58 GMT -6
unfortunately our varsity doesn't condition, let alone give disciplinary punishments.
on our team, for things like earning an F on a weekly progress report, the have to run a perimeter with a "big bag" (tackling dummy weighing about 30 lbs.) Each F = 1 big bag. If we need to make a larger point with a player, we will have them do a fumble drill = throw the ball about 20-ish yards away, he runs to the ball, falls on it, pops up and sprints back 25 times.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 22, 2007 16:07:21 GMT -6
Put four of them on one end of a seven man sled, you stand on the other end and make em push it in a circle. Redudant and painful- love it.
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Post by tigercoach on Jan 22, 2007 17:32:42 GMT -6
Reminder as well... tire flips and 200 yards worth of up downs on every 5 yard line.
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Post by tog on Jan 22, 2007 18:36:01 GMT -6
there are tons of things to do
the thing to keep in mind to me is
make sure it isn't something we already do for athletic enhancement
don't want the tire flipping or other fun things to be seen as "punishment"
you still want it to help with athletic enhancement, but it needs to be something seperate from what you normally do
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Post by aleator on Jan 22, 2007 18:42:49 GMT -6
15 Minute Drill - 2 1/2 minutes of up-downs followed by 2 1/2 minutes of running 40's until you get to 15 minutes. Offender gets to decide where to start; 40's or up-downs.
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Post by dubber on Jan 22, 2007 22:47:54 GMT -6
I was late for a practice one time in college........our practice field was 130 yards long. I did a suicide up down. Every five yards I did an up-down and ran back to the GL. 5, 10, 15, 20......all the way to 130.
Another good one is to have the player remove their helmet and shoulder pads, put the helment through the shoulder pads and carry it above their heads as they run around the practice field. It gets really heavy, really quick.
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Post by smu92 on Jan 22, 2007 23:16:37 GMT -6
I'm all for "reminding" the kids how to represent the program. We had reminders when I was in college, and we have "do-rights" at the school I'm at now, but you must be careful. I agree with tog on this one. Whatever you do for your reminders, make sure it is not something that you ask the kids to do regularly in practice, drills, off-season, etc.... It's hard enough to get kids to "love" what we do without turning our drills into punishment. A lot of coaches forget about how important the mental side of this game is. Remember we are working with kids.
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Post by smu92 on Jan 22, 2007 23:21:44 GMT -6
"Mustang Reminder" at SMU:
6:30 a.m.
8 laps around the field carrying a 25 lb. medicine ball in various positions (over head, behind back, right arm, left arm, etc...). If ball touches the ground, you start over.
After your 8 laps, you make 8 trips up and down the field stopping every 10 yards to do a push-up on the medicine ball.
After your 8 trips, you make 8 trips up the Ford Stadium bleachers carrying the ball in various positions. If the ball falls at any point, you start all over from the very beginning.
This was standard punishment for any offense. The worse the offense, the more consecutive days you had to be there at 6:30. Not very many repeat offenders.
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Post by threeback on Jan 23, 2007 7:42:42 GMT -6
Tog made an excellent point not to include something that you do for athletic enhancement so that the kids do not associate that particular drill or exercise with punishment.
That being said, I like "Perfect 20's"- a kid starts out in a perfect three point stance, on "go", sprints 10 yds, touches the line, and sprints back into a perfect 3-point stance at the starting point. The best thing about this is that the coach totally controls the drill- he can race the kid back to the starting point. He can say that the three point stance is not perfect enough. He can make the kid stay in the three point stance for extended time. YOu can totally get into the kid's head to make them stronger mentally.
I also like "inchworms" and "stupid squats". Inchworms- player starts out standing up, then bends over to touch ground in front of them. They then have to inch themselves forward with their hands until they are in a pushup position, and then inch their way back into a standing position with their feet. Only the toes should touch the ground. 50 yards will usually kill them. For repeat offenders, throw in 5-10 pushups when the kid gets into a pushup position while doing it.
Stupid Squats- Put the kid in a perfect parallel squat position (no weight), and then have them bounce their feet as rapidly as possible, using only their calf muscles. They should land on the balls of their feet. We do this for time with the kids, usually about 30 seconds- it absolutely kills them.
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Post by spartancoach on Jan 23, 2007 8:41:48 GMT -6
I must be in the minority but we don't condition for punishment. Conditioning is conditioning, and punishment is punishment. If a kid screws up, a good talking to usually works. If not, or if the screw up was big enough, he doesn't play (a series, a quarter, a half or a game, to fit the crime).
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Post by donaldduck on Jan 23, 2007 10:42:40 GMT -6
Black Halos - Run a lap with a tire over your head.
Froggy jumps - Begin with your butt below your knees and jump as far as you can for 30-40 yds.
Bunny Jumps - Begin with butt below knees and jump as high as you can 20 times in 10 yds.
Tire relay - Pass tire back, and last one runs to the front of the line to pass it back. Must keep up with coach.
Bear crawls - Bear crawl while others getting punished must hold a tire straight until bear crawler gets finished then take their turn.
Duck walk - squat and walk at the same time.
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Post by dubber on Jan 23, 2007 10:59:21 GMT -6
After reading all of these (so far), I have to say making teh rest of the team condition because one kid messed up is the best one so far. I would use this only on certain players though. That freshmen who is kind of a loner probably couldn't handle it, much less what would happen to him in locker room later on. Any starter or upperclassman it would be perfect for, because they will be able to handle it, won't get crucified in the lockerroom, and it will be more effective.
Any thoughts?
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Post by youngcoach54 on Jan 23, 2007 18:42:56 GMT -6
Anything where the team is held accountable for the misconduct of one is effective in my opinion. You could get carried away with it though. You should be judicious about when this happens.
More important than the punishment is following through with it.
Don't get caught saying you're going to discipline the kid/team for an offense and then not do it.
Could cost you a tremendous amount of trust.
Let me open this can of worms...
At what point do you remove a kid from the team for misconduct?
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Post by ronkend on Jan 23, 2007 19:55:37 GMT -6
We had quite a unique punishment, we have 2 sand volleyball courts right next to one another right near our practice area, the players must run minimum 2 laps of figure 8's around the courts....from personal experience let me tell you that its no fun.
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Post by dubber on Jan 23, 2007 20:47:50 GMT -6
Removal for misconduct? drugs, arrest and conviction, basically, when the young man become detrimental to the program's image and to his teammates
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Post by shotgun321 on Jan 23, 2007 21:59:51 GMT -6
Log Roll!
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Post by tackle on Jan 23, 2007 22:31:10 GMT -6
5 stadiums for every tardy
10 stadiums for any cut
We do these after practice on mondays. They have become so effective it takes a couple of weeks to get enough kids to make a point. We will try to grab the parent and talk to them as the kid runs. It great to see a soccer mom make sure her son finishes the drill.
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Post by turney on Jan 25, 2007 9:41:17 GMT -6
EASTER EGGS - bear crawl forward then crab walk back. We go 10-20-30-40-50.
They dont like these at all.
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