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Post by marbury on Apr 6, 2007 9:23:49 GMT -6
I would like to have the simplest formation calls possible. How would you do it to get the Y in different spots, x in different spots, z in different spots, h in different spots. We are 1 and 2 back gun both with and without a tightend.
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Post by jhanawa on Apr 6, 2007 9:39:53 GMT -6
We do a LOT formation wise and keep it SIMPLE play wise.
Here is how we do our formationing. We have rules and use tags.
Z=always call side, always in the backfield.
Y=always call side except if the formation begins with the letter "T", always on the LOS.
X=always away from call except on formations that begin with "T", always on the LOS.
F= in backfield, alignment depends on play called. F will be inside slot call side on "spread & quad" (empty formations)
R= slotback, call side on flank, trips and quads, away on duece and spread. Two back formations, In "split" (split backs) he is away from F, who is call side, in "I", he is the tailback.
Now with these rules in place, we use these formations.
"I" R/L
"I" Twins R/L
Split R/L
Split Twins R/L
Duece R/L
Trips R/L
Flank R/L
Spread R/L
Quad R/L
All of these formations we can modify with tags:
Open= Y flexes out to an open alignment (personell change to SE if Y isn't an open field athlete)
Tight= X becomes the second TE (personell change usually)
Squeeze= All Receivers "squeeze" alignment to 1 yard from inside man. (bunching formations)
From these formations, we motion and shift quite a bit. So a typical call would sound like:
Deuce Rt, Texas
Shift Duece Rt, Texas
Shift Open Duece Rt, Texas
Shift Open Duece Rt, Razor Texas
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Post by marbury on Apr 6, 2007 11:55:51 GMT -6
Thanks alot for your input. How about anyone else?
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Post by revtaz on Apr 6, 2007 12:11:49 GMT -6
The we did it at the first school I coached worked out well.
A letter for the backfield (I for I, B for split backs, N and F for offset I, W and O for Wing stuff).
A number for the Z back placement. Odds on left evens on right.
a right or left call for the TE/SE placement. TE to call, SE away from call.
I liked it because it was so versatile. That is how I did all the scouting, just writing down plays and not having to draw anything.
Lochness would be able to explain it better, he was the one who taught me.
Taz
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Post by airraider on Apr 6, 2007 12:29:32 GMT -6
This is how our formations go
X is always our left Split end.
Y is always our right Split end.
Z is our left slot guy (or wide slot if in 2 back)
H is our right slot guy or TB when in 2 back
F is our FB and will go in the slot in empty.
Our Base is "spread" which is 2x2
When then have
Trips (3x1 with 3 to wide side)
Bunch (3x1 with bunch to wide side)
Empty ( base 2x2 with F going to #3 to wide side)
Trey (Trips to wide side with F going weak slot)
Tight (Base with both slots being 2 and 2 off the tackles)
This allows us various looks but its very simple. We do not want to confuse our kids with moving them all around. Our ends will only move with End Over calls such as X over or Y over.
Our F can be in 3 different places.. back field, #3 in empty or weakside #2 in Trey..
H can be on either side of the ball, but is always to the right of Z unless we are in I. Z is always to the left of H but can be on either side of the ball depending on formation.
These simply calls allow us to do a lot of different formation. Add in the different motion types we use and we can become very multiple while maintaining simplicity.
We can tag formations together by saying Bunch Trey.. or XO (Over) Bunch Trey.. This would give us bunch, a wide end.. and our F in the weak slot.. We like to do this and run jet sweep to the now Quads side..
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Post by saintrad on Apr 6, 2007 12:31:28 GMT -6
color for backfield alignments
R/L words for formations
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Post by spartancoach on Apr 6, 2007 14:23:16 GMT -6
We are pretty similar to air raider (X always left WR, Y always right WR, etc.) except we number the formations based on number of eligible receivers from let to right. 2X2 is 22, 1X3 is 13, etc. If we insert a TE left we call it "Big 22" or Big 31, etc.; TE right is 22 Big, 13 Big, etc. If we bunch a 3 receiver side it is 13 Bunch, Bunch 32, etc.
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Post by CoachBrink on Apr 7, 2007 21:38:40 GMT -6
We move TE & SE with a term "Rip" tight right, "Rex" flex right, etc.
Then we use a number system to align WB (1st #), RB (2nd #), & FB (3rd #)
We start off in Stack I, numbers will align each back in their new position.
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Post by coachjim on Apr 8, 2007 1:29:20 GMT -6
I find that while conventional and universal, x's, y's, o's, rips, and all that stuff still can cause a good deal of confusion until a hundred reps engrains it into their heads. When you post that you would like the simplest system it seems to me you must be coaching a younger team so here is what I do and you may find my unconventional system easier for you and the kids. It is based on two premises: Make it as easy as possible for the kids and incorporate your team logo into the positions. This really helps the kids remember where they have to be. I do not recommend this system for feeder program teams, however, as it usually won't complement the stuff the next "conventional" coach will be teaching them when they move on. Here it is in all of it's simplicity:
Say your team are the Tigers. Presume you are in the Wing T and they are younger players.
Name your positions based on a Tiger. The kids love it. For instance, the (F)ullback is now the (F)angback. The Slotback is your "Tail"back. Your Wingback is your Clawback. The Guards are the (G)Jaws, the Tackles's the Teeth, the Center is the Nose, and the Quarterback is of course, the Head of the Tiger. You can come up with similar names for the Ends as well based on this idea. I have even renamed the 20 and 80 series plays based on, of course, different attacks that a Tiger might launch involving either the Tail, Claw, or Fang.
After they learn these names and the points of attack, the rest is easy. Later on in the season, if you are in a feeder type program, you can go over the real names of the positions that really are not all that different but stay in a kids mind and make it much easier.
No offense to the rips, x's, o's, and y's, but if you want a good youth formation that they will have no problem remembering and really have fun with, I think this is about the easiest system to use. Again, I am assuming you are in a youth program. Hope that helps and adds a little diversity to the other posts and another feasible option.
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Post by midlineqb on Apr 8, 2007 21:24:57 GMT -6
We have called formations by name (Pro, Spread, Ends, Friends, Amigos, Eagle, Recievers, Tackles, Tight, Open, Twins, Trips, Trey, Triple, Doubles, Duo, Duece, Ace). If we wanted the formation to the left we added the term "flip" to the formation call. If no "flip" call the formation was automatically to the right. We had between 14-18 formations but only prepared 5-8 per game. Some we used every game others we rotated so that we aligned in formations that the opponent had not seen from us.
This was very effective for us and the players understood what where they were to align.
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