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Post by Chris Clement on Sept 14, 2011 20:12:01 GMT -6
This just happened today (maybe yesterday), so no link to a story, and if there was, it would be in French, which would really only help julien and jno.
Anyways, a 17-year old local football player had a heart attack today as the result of taking high doses of steroids over a period of what is estimated to be a year. We think he got them off the internet from someplace offshore (presumably with a real snappy URL), and just went to town.
Former teammates say he was always a little nuts and he took that down a bad path (One compared him unflatteringly to the character from "The Program"). It is considered exceedingly unlikely that anyamount of steroids would have gotten him so much as a scholarship, at best he would play CIS-level, which is no-scholarship, maybe preferred admission and some financial aid. I doubt he'll be getting any of that now.
It got more unbelievable the more we discussed it. If you have a heart attack at 17, you can't even contemplate your life at 30, there's a very good chance you won't be around. Forget having kids, his equipment is probably shrivelled to nothing. And really, if there's one thing a 17-year old does NOT need, it's MORE testosterone pumping around in their system.
So, one more anecdote to hopefully keep kids off the juice.
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Post by coachhartley on Sept 15, 2011 6:37:34 GMT -6
I know that setroid use in the United Kingdom is the fastes growing area of drug use in under 18 males. With the change of the law a few years ago to make it leagal to buy and take steroids I can only see the issue getting worse.
Half the problem (as with all drug use) is a lack of education. Kids don't ralise that taking steroids before your mid 20's has huge health implications. And as was said they really don't need any more homones at all.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 15, 2011 7:22:15 GMT -6
Pay attention to where your kids are working out, assuming they're not hitting the school weight room (or doing both). I coached in a program that had about half of the kids working out in a Gold's Gym a block away from the school; they were getting their hands on all kinds of crap.
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 15, 2011 8:01:15 GMT -6
Have your kids read Gym Candy by Carl Deuker. While it is fiction, it pretty much spells out what it does to you physically and mentally. It is written on the 8th/9th grade level and is probably in your school's library.
btw Deuker writes a lot of sports related stuff for that age group.
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Post by John Knight on Sept 15, 2011 9:14:02 GMT -6
Thanks, Coach Woodall, I just downloaded a copy on Ibooks for my son to read. He is a senior but he reads all the Mike Lupica, Tim Green etc, books and he will enjoy this one as well. Should be a great message for him as well.
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Post by Fridge on Sept 16, 2011 5:09:02 GMT -6
It´s been told a gazillion times before, but still there are always some athletes who think, that there ARE shortcuts to success...
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Post by airman on Sept 16, 2011 15:34:20 GMT -6
you can get steriods through the mail from canada where they are not out lawed.
if used under the care of a doctor steriods are not that bad. people do it all the time to overcome physical injuries.
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Post by Chris Clement on Sept 16, 2011 17:14:38 GMT -6
Buying, selling, importing, or exporting steroids in Canada is met with up to 18 months in prison.
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Post by airman on Sept 17, 2011 12:42:20 GMT -6
I thought you could still have them on your person for personal use. I just remember the hockey players at the university I went to 20 years ago would bring them in for the football players.
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Post by fballcoachg on Sept 17, 2011 17:34:06 GMT -6
its definitely something to address but the problem is we are dealing with people, kids inparticular who always think they are the exception or think they are invincible. I don't condone steriod use by any means (even though i was on them as a small kid with lung problems, still blame them for my husky youth!), but there is a pretty decent documentary on netflix that shows why some adults use it called "Bigger, Faster, Stronger." Scary thing about the flick is that one of the guys is a high school football coach. Also, be careful when telling kids that they need to get bigger and stronger without telling them exactly how to do it. While you are saying workout, eat this or that, all they hear is Bigger/Stronger. Luckily most or our kids don't have the means to get steriods but it is still something we address.
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Post by Chris Clement on Sept 17, 2011 18:07:24 GMT -6
Yo can have personal use quantities, but it's your job to prove that it's for personal use (reverse onus). Selling, manufacturing, and everything else IS illegal, especially distributing and transporting. It's just not worthwhile to have an unenforceable law against minor possession. The current law dates to 1996, but it originates in 1929, not sure if what your hockey players were doing was illegal, but I'll wager crossing the border probably was.
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Post by airman on Sept 18, 2011 8:11:43 GMT -6
Yo can have personal use quantities, but it's your job to prove that it's for personal use (reverse onus). Selling, manufacturing, and everything else IS illegal, especially distributing and transporting. It's just not worthwhile to have an unenforceable law against minor possession. The current law dates to 1996, but it originates in 1929, not sure if what your hockey players were doing was illegal, but I'll wager crossing the border probably was. it was in the late 1980s. they would get them mailed to their address as well. we had the largest hockey team I have ever seen to be honest.
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Post by Chris Clement on Sept 18, 2011 9:41:28 GMT -6
we had the largest hockey team I have ever seen to be honest. That's not what she said! Sorry, couldn't resist. Anyway, I think we can come to a consensus that the original kid involved was doing something illegal, and that having a 17-year old self-medicate is not a great idea.
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Post by coachhartley on Sept 19, 2011 8:59:33 GMT -6
I think half the problem (especially in the UK) is that we paint steroids as an ultimat evil in the way we do all drugs. When kids start to find out the truth (such as steroid use is not as much of a bad idea as heroin use) then a lot of the message loses credibility. The kids then don't listen to any of the message and take stupid risks with their bodies.
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