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Post by dacoachmo on Jul 31, 2007 7:51:03 GMT -6
I am on the search for the best overall "team punishment" (hate to call it that but...)
The team is not focused during a groups or whole team drill...
1) "run around that far tree" then you are waiting for the big boys...
2) "get 'em choppin'" for grassers (down-ups)...big boys hate them (as a former bubba I hate them too...)
so what do you coaches do to get them "back"
yes, I will single out a few that may cause some trouble...
yes, I have started practice over....
yes, I keep them moving and avoid long drills and players watching a drill...
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Post by airraider on Jul 31, 2007 9:03:02 GMT -6
DC!!!!!!!! DONT EVER BRING UP THE WORD LADDER AROUND ME AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, Im back.. Waoh!! had some flashbacks from high school..
The ladder was a MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!
that and the metabolic run.. @#*(@#(#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by coachbw on Jul 31, 2007 9:20:04 GMT -6
If it is a performance thing, or lack of fire . . . we will start practice over. If it is something bigger (almost always something reported to us by a principal or teacher), we do a 100 yard down, back, bear crawl. Basically run, back pedal, then bear crawl. It sounds easy, but the bear crawl kills them.
I think the important part about having a punishment is that it can't ever be used for a different purpose. It must be something different than what you do for conditioning. It also needs to be consistant so that the kids related it to punishment.
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Post by brophy on Jul 31, 2007 9:34:45 GMT -6
stop practice and lecture them for 30-40 minutes.  |
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Post by eagled on Jul 31, 2007 10:10:42 GMT -6
I'm a dc, so I only have to worry about the defensive side. When we are in need of 'negative reinforcement' we will stop practice time (the reinforcement times counts as their time not practice time) and we will either do high intensity pursuit drill or the good old 300 yard shuttle. It ranks right up there with the ladder.
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 31, 2007 10:36:09 GMT -6
If it's lack of focus we go straight to the Fun House!
Bear Crawls, Up downs, Right Hand/Left Hand, Army Crawl, Whistle Drill, Slide Drill, Forward Rolls, and just straight sprints. We'll have 5 guys in a line and all "drills" are for 20 yards. Generally don't have to do this too often.
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Post by lochness on Jul 31, 2007 10:56:25 GMT -6
Honestly,
For us, it was disappointing the HC. That was it. We were terrified of disappointing the HC. I'm not sure if this generation of kids works that way, though.
The other thing we do is we simply stop installation of new stuff, and we tell the kids that untill they can balls-out execute, we won't put another play in. We don't care if we go into our first game with only 3 plays. It's their choice, not ours. That usually works pretty well too, especially for the vetrans pushing the slackers or new guys.
Otherwise, we have a nice 75-yard long hard sand hill at a nice steep angle...
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Post by lukethadrifter on Jul 31, 2007 11:27:47 GMT -6
When one kid loafs or shows a really bad attitude, etc..., then stop practice and have this kid watch while the rest of the team runs sprints, does up downs, etc... Now what happens is leaders start to emerge. The kids will start to handle problems and will not want to be the one that makes everyone else get punished. Any "cancers" that you have on the team need to be weeded out anyway. Luke
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Post by groundchuck on Jul 31, 2007 11:32:51 GMT -6
When I played I had that same fear of disappointing the HC and my position coach, ( and for me my team). I think there are still kids like that. If I need to get after the team as a whole updowns are good IMO. Sometimes just 10-15, to wake'm up...sometimes more.
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Post by ajreaper on Jul 31, 2007 22:00:29 GMT -6
I have a simple expectation- work during the drill or play or work after it, generally up downs done quickly. Just 4-5 sends the message and takes little time and does not slow the pace of practice and generally only needs to be used early in the year. They "get it" pretty quickly.
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Post by coachcalande on Aug 1, 2007 4:27:44 GMT -6
Ill share something called "Bellies"....the very thought of bellies is often enough to get what you need from this type of "positive" (eye of the beholder I guess) reinforcement.  Bellies are THE BEST because a player cant relax, dog it or take it easy in any way...the less effort they attempt to put in, the more work it naturally becomes....its great. Ok, heres the short explanation of bellies, ...combine up downs with sprints...works like this... players start on the goal line in a three point stance, facing other goal line, on whistle all players run, sprint, jog, walk if they want...honestly, they pick their own poison (most soon learn that sprinting is the best option)....every couple of seconds the coach will blow the whistle and all players must drop and do an updown and resume "locomotion" to the far endzone. continue this over and over again until the last player crosses the goal line. Now, the "reward" for great effort is a longer rest...the first player to cross gets the longest rest, the second player gets the next longest rest etc...they get to rest until the last player crosses the goal line. the late arrivals get almost no rest , then turn the team around and come back the other way...the big slow lazy guys end up doing far more updowns than the guys that really sprint hard. Bellies have always been my "manditory makeup conditioning" for missed practices. I use 200 yards of bellies for late players, 500 yards of bellies for a missed practice (excused) and 1000 yards of bellies for an unexcused absense...worked great as a deterrant...suddenly every kid didnt have 12 orthodontist appointments in the middle of the season...know what i mean? |
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Post by phantom on Aug 1, 2007 6:17:21 GMT -6
About once a year I'll put them on the track. When I take practice time to make them run a lap they know I'm pi$$ed. Thankfully, we have good kids a d have developed a good tradition.
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