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Post by coachtwy on Aug 17, 2011 23:30:40 GMT -6
I have a lower level coach going behind my back to recruit some of my younger players. When asked he explains that the kids and their parents came to HIM. When the kids and their parents are asked they all say HE approached THEM, promising more playing time and specific positions. I trust the kids and their parents. My question is how should this be handled? Should I just forget about it, talk to him personally(which will most likely lead to more lies) or bring it to the board? Any advice would be helpfull.
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Post by coachdoug on Aug 18, 2011 0:48:28 GMT -6
I have a lower level coach going behind my back to recruit some of my younger players. When asked he explains that the kids and their parents came to HIM. When the kids and their parents are asked they all say HE approached THEM, promising more playing time and specific positions. I trust the kids and their parents. My question is how should this be handled? Should I just forget about it, talk to him personally(which will most likely lead to more lies) or bring it to the board? Any advice would be helpfull. IMHO, the biggest problem you have is a lack of control by your board. As a president or board member I would never let any parent or coach move a kid from one team to another. Team (age/weight division) assignments are made by the board and can only be changed by the board. We put the kid where we feel he'll have the best opportunity for success and an enjoyable season (generally in the lowest division for which he is eligible without having to lose significant weight). If anyone wants that kid moved, he or she had better have a pretty darn good reason (like siblings with whom schedules need to be coordinated or something like that, NOT "well, that coach said my little Johnny could play RB for him"). Given the reality of the situation you're in, you need to go talk to this other coach directly and, if you're unsatisfied with the answers he's giving you, tell him so and that you're going to take the issue to the board. Ignoring it is just not a mature response, and going straight to the board without talking to the other coach face-to-face first will come across as cowardly. Good luck to you, coach. |
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Post by coachbuck on Aug 18, 2011 0:58:44 GMT -6
I wouldnt bother confronting the coach. You already said he denied it. Talk to your board make sure there on your side. I assume you did a draft or some type of equal split? If this is the case hold your ground. I really dont care what the parents want. Tell them that Johnny is on your team and same some good things about Johnny. If they demand he be on the other team say we have our football teams if Johnny doesnt want to play on this team he is more than welcome to play soccer. Dont give into idiot coaches or parents. I can bet you it is a combination of both. I hate parents and coaches trying to manipulate everything. Its friggin youth football.
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Post by coachcomet on Aug 18, 2011 7:44:26 GMT -6
We had a similar problem before we drafted this year. We had an assistant coach call returning players parents and ask if they wanted to move over to their team.
Our league allows each coach to have three exemptions. Most of the coaches use them to get kids from the other organization in our town, or to pick up kids that were left by a team moving up.
But this guy did not care one way or the other.
He told two of my parents that his team would compete for the championship this year and we were not good enough to compete. “Too young”
To me if a player is unhappy with the coach or the situation. Why would you hold them back? If a kid wants off my team and tries out another team, I’m not going to hold him back. If he has made that decision he’s not going to be happy, the parents are not going to be happy. It’s going to cause more drama and that is all that’s needed to start the season off on the wrong foot. Every little thing is going to be questioned.
My vote: let them go
This is about the kids
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Post by M4 on Aug 18, 2011 7:50:08 GMT -6
We have a team in our area whos not associated with our program offering kids play station 3's, cash, free registration and "guaranteed" positions to come over to their program.
If your offering a 12 year old kid cash and video games which they will probably never see, to come play for your team your desperate IMO, I told one of our kids and their parent that we can't offer that and we never would, we'll simply offer to coach them the best we can and improve their football skills and that they would get to play the position they deserve and that can help the team the most.
They ended up staying, I think they saw the desperation as well...
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Post by coachtwy on Aug 18, 2011 8:11:32 GMT -6
Thanks guys. It's also my belief that if a kid doesn't want on my team, then who needs em? But the fact that this coach is going behind my back and saying " you're not gonna get to play for him, come play for me and you'll be RB, QB," and BS like that pisses me off. My team isn't hurting for numbers but I had spent 3 weeks practicing/thinking I had certain guys on my team now to find out that players are going down a level without even talking to our Head Coach. I'm definetely bringing it up with the board after I confront the guy on the issue.
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Post by coachtwy on Aug 18, 2011 8:21:54 GMT -6
Unfortunately the Coach in question is also the VP of the Board.
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Post by coachbuck on Aug 18, 2011 8:36:35 GMT -6
If a player is on my team and wants to change because a coach told them "they will compete for a championship, or you can play x position for me" all the more reason to keep him on your team. Complete b.s.. Its not that he doesnt want to play for you, the opposing coach has lied to him. The reason you have draft rules is to ensure even teams. Sorry just because x coach has no integrity doesnt mean Im gonna give up some of my better players. If parents dont like it ohwell.
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Post by coachmsl on Aug 18, 2011 9:13:19 GMT -6
I feel your pain!
I have been affect by this the last couple of years. Unfortunately the Board has not supported my efforts. Pi$$es me off, but what can i do? Hands have been tied. I am trying to get some things changed for the future though.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 18, 2011 9:40:15 GMT -6
When the kids and their parents are asked they all say HE approached THEM, promising more playing time and specific positions. I would let this guy hang himself. If he is making these kinds of promises, what happens when he doesn't follow through? |
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 18, 2011 12:56:51 GMT -6
There's a difference in a kid not wanting to play for you and him being recruited by another 'coach'. We had to fight this battle 3 different times this off-season cause they were told this and that by other coaches in the league. I'd take it to whoever the authority is and get it all settled.
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