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curious
Aug 12, 2011 19:26:32 GMT -6
Post by spurred on Aug 12, 2011 19:26:32 GMT -6
I understand there are many different viewpoints on this, but I did a search and couldn't find anything but for a I style team (along with some gun), how many plays are too many? We have 15 run plays (counting one way) but 3 blocking schemes for them that don't change whether we would be in two back or one back.
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curious
Aug 12, 2011 20:43:27 GMT -6
Post by coachschro on Aug 12, 2011 20:43:27 GMT -6
We have 10 plays total. The answer to this question is always the same, how many plays can you coach them up on and they can understand and master? That answer may be 5 or 25...
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curious
Aug 12, 2011 20:54:12 GMT -6
Post by spurred on Aug 12, 2011 20:54:12 GMT -6
well I look at it like this, whatever they can grasp I will teach
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curious
Aug 12, 2011 23:41:00 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 23:41:00 GMT -6
So 30 run plays, total, with 3 blocking schemes, correct, are the 3 schemes including pass pro?
To me, that's A LOT!.. (just my opinion), but to give you an idea, I've coached 13 years, 3 different weight ball classes, 1 yr Middle school ball, going into my second stint in HS ball now.
The most plays I've ever carried were 6 run 5 pass. Never more than 3 blocking schemes, if you include our pass pro , with the run game almost all were single blocking schemes.
It's also important to note that it's my personal philosophy to do less, but do it as close to flawless as we can
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curious
Aug 13, 2011 6:38:27 GMT -6
Post by jake99 on Aug 13, 2011 6:38:27 GMT -6
Coach Kell nailed this. Perfect those 11 plays he has he will win 90% of the time. I see HS and youth coaches trying to impress with a Offensive Book with 50 or so plays. very seldom works.
Another thing, if you tape your games, go back and count how many different plays you used in a game. The answer will shock you.
A couple of years ago I had a 11-12 year old team. We were pretty good, in our first game we ran 2 pass plays and 4 different run plays We played a very good team we beat them 36-12 after the game the other coach came up and told me we knew what was coming we couldnt stop you from running down hill.
What a great thing to tell me. Our Blocking and execution was right on .
Finished the year 12-1
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curious
Aug 13, 2011 7:12:34 GMT -6
Post by utchuckd on Aug 13, 2011 7:12:34 GMT -6
In this context I tend to think of plays as blocking schemes. We try to keep the OL learning as minimal as possible, but you can almost line the backs up any way you want and teach 'em any number of ways to attack the LOS. That's the one thing I am glad I was able to figure out early in my career when we had a pretty talented team. We went in to the last couple of games with 40-50 play calls on our wrist bands, but we were only blocking 4 things, plus pass pro. Kinda stupid on one hand considering we only got 35 or so snaps a game, but this particular bunch could handle it (7th-8th graders).
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curious
Aug 13, 2011 8:28:16 GMT -6
Post by spurred on Aug 13, 2011 8:28:16 GMT -6
Knell there are technically 4 blocking schemes including our pass pro scheme. We have 15 running plays (pairings of right and left versions). The other thing is that this is their third year running this offensive scheme ( first under me). So they should already have an understand of say our power off tackle play that they have ran for two years.
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Aug 13, 2011 8:55:56 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 8:55:56 GMT -6
Knell there are technically 4 blocking schemes including our pass pro scheme. We have 15 running plays (pairings of right and left versions). The other thing is that this is their third year running this offensive scheme ( first under me). So they should already have an understand of say our power off tackle play that they have ran for two years. You should be fine then, provided they have the experience, and you don't stray too far from what they already know
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Aug 13, 2011 9:25:21 GMT -6
Post by spurred on Aug 13, 2011 9:25:21 GMT -6
well, that's the key Kell, the first four weeks we are going to review the stuff they were supposed to have learned last year as fifth graders.....if we execute that well, we can implement one new play at a time, if we don't execute those well, we don't spend time implementing new plays we correct our plays. To me it seems simple in the fact that for these plays that some people in the program are wanting me to cut, use techniques for backs recievers and OL that are in use for other plays, like reading the backside end for a zone read call. down blocking up front, and running a slot bubble for a pitch man.( do those aspects in about 3 other plays) in these plays they exact way the QB reads the end is tweaked but he still looks to the same man to determine give or pull......
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Aug 13, 2011 10:19:44 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 10:19:44 GMT -6
Like I said, if they already know the scheme then it probably wont hurt much.. I still think it's a lot, again just my opinion.
But if they know it, it's what you believe in, go for it
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