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Post by wildcat on Apr 1, 2007 6:35:02 GMT -6
OK, fellas...I'm changing schools this fall and going from a spread system to the Wing-T. Picked up Dennis Creehan's "The Wing-T From A to Z Volumes 1 & 2" at a clinic this weekend. Going to read those this week during break.
I'm going to be coaching the OL...anyone have any other books, videos, or websites for a new Wing-T coach?
Thanks!
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Post by ccscoach on Apr 1, 2007 6:44:25 GMT -6
Bucksweep and Jet Sweep.com are good
Wes Elrod stuff on jetsweep is good
Delaware Wing -t and Order of football by Tubby Raymond
Scoring Power with the Wing-t by David Nelson
Lew Johnston coaching the flying wing-t(you should like this with the spread background)
there is a ton of stuff the Creehan books you have are very good also.
Good luck coach congrats on the new job.
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Post by wildcat on Apr 1, 2007 6:47:41 GMT -6
Thanks, coach. I saw the Tubby Raymond book down there...knew I should have picked it up!  I'll check out jetsweep and bucksweep. |
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Post by brophy on Apr 1, 2007 7:10:42 GMT -6
you are two hours away from a Wing-T Mecca, man Go to Rock Island and visit the staff at Augustana College (Barnes & Schmaulbach) and Rock Island High School (Boblett) who have been running the Wing-T for the last 30 years (from the lineage of Bob Reade). Bob Reade lives in Geneseo and ALL these guys are really warm & receptive to coaches wanting to learn the Wing-T (or anything else). video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801558439560843772&hl=en |
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Post by wildcat on Apr 1, 2007 7:36:50 GMT -6
you are two hours away from a Wing-T Mecca, man Go to Rock Island and visit the staff at Augustana College (Barnes & Schmaulbach) and Rock Island High School (Boblett) who have been running the Wing-T for the last 30 years (from the lineage of Bob Reade). Bob Reade lives in Geneseo and ALL these guys are really warm & receptive to coaches wanting to learn the Wing-T (or anything else). video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801558439560843772&hl=enBrophy - Funny you should mention Augie...they have a clinic in about a month...I'm already signed up to go! Really looking forward to it...I talked to some wing-t'ers down at the state clinic and they said the Augie guys have forgotten more about the Wing-T than most coaches will ever know. |
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Post by wildcat on Apr 1, 2007 7:41:01 GMT -6
Oh, and by the way...in that film clip you posted, the North Central QB is a kid who played for us from 2000 to 2002. He was a first-team all-Stater and was an all-American and finalist for the Gagliardi Trophy his senior year.
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Post by nydc on Apr 1, 2007 7:46:09 GMT -6
Contact Tom Herman.
He is a very very helpful wing-t coach and was Denny Creehan's OL coach. Very knowledgable and willing to help.
therman@mercyhurst.edu
814-824-3329
Recreation Center
Mercyhurst College
501 East 38 th St .
Erie , PA 16546-0001
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Post by tcm57 on Apr 1, 2007 9:02:25 GMT -6
To echo nydc, Tom Herman is a great resource. Also, Phil Willenbrock is another.
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Post by poweriguy on Apr 1, 2007 10:36:14 GMT -6
Get a hold of tothehouse. He's at a well established wing-t school and could possibly help you out.
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Post by airraider on Apr 1, 2007 11:59:30 GMT -6
I will also chime in with Herman's praises. He is the oline rule blocking guru.
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Post by amikell on Apr 1, 2007 18:16:01 GMT -6
give the OC at carnegie-mellon a call, Erdelyi i think is his name. I think their clinic was this past weekend.
Bucksweep.com is a great resource. Delaware has an ol tape out. i think is kind of old. check out syskos.com (spelling) to find it. the ol tape gives drills etc.
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Post by wingman on Apr 1, 2007 20:58:40 GMT -6
I've seen them all and I think the Paul Conner videos are among the best for beginners.
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Post by wildcat on Apr 1, 2007 21:37:01 GMT -6
wingman -
Did the Paul Connor you are referring to play in the NFL? I think he may be a college or HS coach here in Illinois (he might be retired?).
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Post by cjamerson on Apr 2, 2007 12:48:52 GMT -6
Above all else, be sure your fundamentals are sound. Two years ago, my very first coaching job (1st coaching experience) was oline coach in a wing t system. My biggest regret was not being fundamentally sound. I knew the simple stuff of blocking, but I couldn't get very in depth in progression with the kids. We all suffered a 5-4 season. Once they know fundamentals, they will have no problem learning the assignments. My favorite part of this job was the ability to block any front to to rule progression and interpretation. Made it more simple for the kids to understand...no guessing. Tom Herman and Phil Willenbrock are the kings of Wing T blocking...any of their resources will help. PM me, I may be able to help.
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Post by knighter on Apr 2, 2007 14:27:08 GMT -6
another contact
Matt Dillon, Head Coach at Cornell College in Mt. Vernon, Iowa.
Has run wing t, and run it well for numeous years.
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Post by wildcat on Apr 2, 2007 20:13:28 GMT -6
Hey guys!
Thanks for all of the input...This will all get me started in the right direction.
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Post by coachf on Apr 2, 2007 22:01:07 GMT -6
wildcat, do you have more info on the Augie Clinic. I never got anything at school. I would like to go.
BTW, if you went to the IHSFCA clinic, you must be one of the 3 or 4 people not planning on running a 3-3-5 or Spread next year. Considering, that is all that people talk about anymore there.
Also, I am making the switch to a Wing-T this year. We aren't as drastic a change as you, but it might be interesting to know what you are going through. One thing I did not like about the Creehan stuff was the emphasis on the shoulder blocking. We probably won't incorporate a lot of that. I also had to change the play calls and basically ignore the Series concept. There is just way too much IMO to run and still be crisp.
Another guy to contact is Unruh from Illini West or whatever Carthage is called now. He is very helpful, although he told my assistant that the way we plan to run it is not his path of choice.
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Post by coachdawhip on Apr 4, 2007 8:54:32 GMT -6
OL material Herman is the best!!!! Hands down
He shows you how to break down practice and teaches you all the steps.
Erdelyi is a great resource for the overall game as well.
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Post by khalfie on Apr 4, 2007 15:16:45 GMT -6
What is this Wing T of which you speak?
How many WR's does it have?
Is the QB in a 4 and 1/2 yd shotgun, or the all out 8 yd shotgun?
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Post by wildcat on Apr 4, 2007 21:04:34 GMT -6
What is this Wing T of which you speak? How many WR's does it have? Is the QB in a 4 and 1/2 yd shotgun, or the all out 8 yd shotgun? It is a pretty radical offense, Khalfie... Apparently, the QB actually lines up under the center and NOT in shotgun...heresy! Also, in the most common formation there is only 1 WR! And, most blasphemous, it appears as if Wing-T teams actually want to run the ball instead of throwing 30 passes a game! Like I said...not sure I am buying all of this. I will have to see it to believe it!  |
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Post by coachcalande on Apr 5, 2007 5:56:09 GMT -6
I just recently got Hermans wing-t camp/practices...pretty cool so far...kinda tough to plow thru it all....(3 ankle biters running around...)
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Post by brophy on Apr 5, 2007 7:13:24 GMT -6
The biggest caveat to the Wing-T, is making sure you know how to coach up the timing for belly (QB, FB, HB, WB)
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Post by tedseay on Apr 6, 2007 4:01:29 GMT -6
The biggest caveat to the Wing-T, is making sure you know how to coach up the timing for belly (QB, FB, HB, WB) ...and then teach them Belly Sweep exactly the way Bellevue runs it... |
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Post by coachjim on Apr 8, 2007 17:00:42 GMT -6
...and then download Ted Seay's Wing-T for Youth Football Playbook off of this website. I am sure he would answer some questions too, if you have any. I have found no better simplification of the system for youth football anywhere then Teds.
Re: "Also, in the most common formation there is only 1 WR!" The basic 20 series has a TE and SE (split about ten yards out.) No WR's, at least not in the system I have in place.
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Post by midlineqb on Apr 8, 2007 21:32:25 GMT -6
There is a lot of good Wing-T info on the FCPGA--Bill Williams lists. He does a good job as well as the speakers he has brought in--Hermann, Creehan, Blankenship and others. They all are great and I think that if you contacted any of them they would be willing to help you.
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