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Post by Coach Morgan on Jun 27, 2005 11:19:00 GMT -6
I'm a first year OC at the high school varsity level. What are those bits of wisdom you've come to through the years as it relates to being an OC? What are some bits of knowledge/sage advice that frame how you approach the job of being an OC? I'm fortunate to have a great, supportive HC and a group of excellent assistant coaches. There is not an ego among us.
(I posted this at the Campbell boards awhile ago - I know have many coaches who also use that site - I got so much great advice I couldn't help but ask a new group of coaches.)
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Post by tog on Jun 27, 2005 12:31:25 GMT -6
i think the basic thing would be to plan practices accordingly with what you are going to run in the game, this may be common sense, but I don't want to spend 15 minutes running the same play over and over again, when you may only run that play once or twice a game, i would want to stick with the base stuff that you KNOW you will call the most in the game and plan the percentages of plays to be run in practice to be similar to what you expect to run them in the game
this sounds simple, lots of people mess this up though
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Post by champyun on Jun 27, 2005 17:07:26 GMT -6
Watch all of your opponent's films the first time and just take notes on what you see that might work offensively. Watch them again to see if you might have missed something. If so, jot it down, along with any new ideas that you might have come up with. Then, formulate a game plan and be able to put a "why" question to each concerning its validity vs. your opponent. Always ask yourself, "Why are we doing/using this?" Work your plan on Monday and Tuesday. Then, re-evaluate each part and decide if it needs to go or stay in the plan. By Wednesday, make sure you're working only on what you'll run on Friday night (Thurs. is a walk-thru on special teams only for us). There may be something you'll need to drop after Wednesday if it hasn't been looking good that week. All you're doing is simplifying the game plan and using what your team has been executing well in practice.
"Plan your work, then work your plan!"
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Post by catoc on Jun 27, 2005 20:10:32 GMT -6
I agree completely. Be very confident in what you are going to do Friday. Don't change too much. Make sure your plan is sound. Determine which defender you are going to attack. Try to determine what your base plays are going to be and run them most of the time in practice. I just never understood why coaches run a play 4-5 times in practice all week long and then expect to run it well 14-15 times in a game. Lastly, I don't run a play we have not worked on in practice. Kids are creatures of habit and most are not comfortable with doing something different in a pressure situation in a game. Just my thinking.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jun 28, 2005 11:38:59 GMT -6
one thing i've gathered.....have a philosophy about EACH DOWN & DISTANCE. everyone has a philosophy of "offense" or "defense" but i think we need to take the time to formulate our approach to each down & distance. the game is played in increments (downs, quarters, etc.) so i think we need to think offensively along those terms. these philosophies or attitudes must be instilled in the players, specifically those that touch the ball.
generally (for me) 1st down - no negative plays. nothing wrong with 2nd & 10. this allows me to be comfortable in throwing the ball on first down. the qb must realize that an incompletion is considered ok.....tucking the ball to run is just fine. never allow a sack to happen. 2nd & long - get to 3rd & medium. i firmly believe that to be married to the spread, one must be totally at ease calling run plays on 2nd & 10. 2nd & medium - a) get the first down. b) take a chance - if taking a chance, same philosophy as 1st down. main thing is not to be put into 3rd & long. 2nd & short - mix it up. get the first; go home run; regardless, stay out of being placed into 3rd & long. 3rd & short - get first down 3rd & medium - get first down 3rd & long - get positive yards. game situations will determine my choices here. early on, i may not elect to go for it all (i.e. chunk it up) but will be satisfied with gaining positive yards. not alot of plays will net you 15 yards when the defense is playing to give you up to 14. so, sometimes i would rather just call a safe play that will result in some type of positive gain (draw, zone, stop route, etc.). yardage gained here is yardage added to the punt. plus, you still have ability for a guy to make a big play.
these down & distance philosophies play major role in my play-calling ALONG WITH the natural course of the game. plays i call (be it run or pass) are those which i feel can achieve the goal of each scenario based on what i've seen through game planning that week and what is happening in the game.
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 1, 2005 12:37:08 GMT -6
IM both the OC and the Dc of my team...here are my golden rules...
PRACTICE
1) practice time is your only friend- dont waste one precious minute of it practicing stuff you arent going to use in a game. 2) break down your plays into their smallest parts, let the players master their assignments both physically and mentally before practicing live.(doesnt matter what you know, matters what they know) 3) put the parts together and mesh it thru slow mo, half speed full speed. NO RUSH TO GO LIVE OR SCRIMMAGE, FOLKS WHO SCRIMMAGE ALOT DONT KNOW WHAT TO PRACTICE. 4) rep it rep it rep it- video tape it and review nightly to improve daily, never stay the same. 5) test it against every front and stunt. prepare by down and distance too. introduce your kids to pressure situations in practice.
pregame- make sure you have at least one backup prepared for every position. Make sure every coach has an assignment other than to just watch the game.
game time OC
1) DONT GRAB BAG. have a game plan, stick to it and make them stop you, dont second guess yourself. Keep calling the same play until they can stop it.
2) dont assume an "alignment" will stop your plays. In other words, coach against the kids on teh field, not the other coach.* "8 in the box" doesnt mean squat if they cant get off blocks and pursuit to make tackles.
3) dont call plays you havent practiced.
4) call your best plays in the big situations. Always be aware of what players are in the game. (both sides of the ball)
5) give the ball to your "gamers" in big situations
6) score alot, but dont run it up.
7) be a master of clock management, in fact, stand next to an assigned clock management coach.
8) dont believe that you cant score quickly with the run game.
9) pass on run downs, run on pass downs (traps, counters)
10)forget being "balanced" and move the ball in whatever fashion works best for the kids on your team.
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Post by phantom on Jul 1, 2005 13:46:21 GMT -6
I'm not an OC but I coach OL and I'm a DC. Those two perspectives taught me: 1. Be very, very careful about adding new plays during the season, especially if they involve new blocking schemes. Whenever the boss suggests adding a play, he knows that the first thing he's going to hear is me asking if it changes anything up front. If not, he knows it won't bother me. If it does, he knows that my next question is, "What are we cutting out?". That's our rule- if something goes in, something comes out. You only have so much practice time and the kids can only handle so much, especially in a short time. 2. As a DC, I'll second Coach Calande's advice about being willing to run a successful play until the defense stops it. It's amazing how often I see teams move the ball well running one thing then, for some reason, change to something else. Don't outcoach yourself.
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 1, 2005 13:55:35 GMT -6
"If it does, he knows that my next question is, "What are we cutting out?". That's our rule- if something goes in, something comes out. You only have so much practice time and the kids can only handle so much, especially in a short time."
perfect. I spoke to our varsity oline coach yesterday...he doesnt yet have a copy of the varsity playbook and new blockign schemes....im nervous...I am with you on that 100%, my oline knows my backs will learn more "plays" (backfield window dressing) then they learn "schemes". this is important. Dont know why but some guys will run like 8 different dives and expect the oline to be able to block other things like, veer, trap, power, short trap, wedge, counter, short counter, inside zone, outsize zone, waggle, sprint, slide, man, blah blah blah...I remember listening to state champ lecture on power football. his team "always uses less than 10 blocking schemes". think about that. you know, and i know, those kids must be able to apply their rules and make adjustments with calls in their sleep.
FINALLY, AND THIS IS HUGE FOR US OLINE GUYS, IF YOU HAVE 12 SCHEMES, AND PRACTICE FOR 2 HOURS (LIKE WE EVER GET TWO FULL HOURS FOR OLINE) THATS ONLY 10 MINUTES PER SCHEME.
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Post by tog on Jul 1, 2005 13:58:26 GMT -6
if something goes in then the blocking scheme up front needs to be similar to something you are already doing, the modular part for getting different looks needs to come from the backfield
this is what is great about zone blocking things, you can do a lot of different stuff behind it, and keep things simple up front
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Post by catoc on Jul 1, 2005 23:09:24 GMT -6
Of all of the things I have read on the various boards those lessons may be the best. It is a great game if we don't screw it up. Keep It Simple Stupid!!
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Post by tog on Jul 1, 2005 23:10:31 GMT -6
gene simmons baby KISS
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Post by catoc on Jul 2, 2005 11:42:33 GMT -6
Ace "I pee" Freely
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Post by coach1234567 on Jul 7, 2005 7:02:26 GMT -6
I might get to call some offense on the Freshman team. How do you go about picking plays in advance while staying with the down and distance?
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Post by scottc on Jul 7, 2005 10:10:34 GMT -6
maximus- 5Ps of sucess prior preparation prevents poor performance
Prepare Prepare prepare
the one thing I do that helps us imo is I script everything I can in practice whether its skell, inside drill or whatever. This keeps the tempo in practice going and it wont bog the period down trying to decide on what to run on the next play.
During preseason practice at end of week I have a spread sheet of formation, plays etc. I can tell you the exact number of reps for each we had that week..that way being a dummy like me I wont call a play on that big 3rd and 5 that we repped maybe one time..seriously though scripting and giving copies to all offensive coaches keeps them on task without them worried about 'what we got on this play' they know and can be ready to watch for their area
Coach 123456... I basically have 2 main columns on the front of my playsheet= Openers -1st and 2nd down plays and then my 3rd down situation sheet
the openers is a list of plays I know I will run in those situations runs, playaction, and good first down passes [some of this is based on scouting and some on philosophy]usually my bread and butter stuff with the different formations I want to run them out of
I normally try to have at least 2 pre selected plays for 3rd and long- usually 2 go for its and a couple of conservative calls
the main bulk of my 3rd package is centered around the 3rd and 4-9 areas [statistically the most common 3rd down situations] here I try to package plays that compliment one another like a series etch-again have some conservative calls in case the situation arises
3rd and short I will have 2-3 runs and 2 passes
During the season on Wednesday and Thursday we have a 3rd down period where we give situations and go through these...so the kids know if its 3rd and 3 they will have idea that probably its 46 power is coming
How to determine which play" depends on scouting but mostly depends on what your guys do best..The plays that our guys run best [hopefully all of them] is going to be my 3rd down calls..
Finally sometimes the best laid plans go wrong and you have to make some adjustments in the course of the game...
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Post by tog on Jul 7, 2005 12:38:19 GMT -6
nothing like making "adjustments" during the game
once put in a reverse on the sideline off of another reverse we ran, the ol had never done it before like this before, but we had never seen that look and this would just kill them
I drew it up on the board, the kids went out and did it because they understood what we were trying to do, and we killed them for like a 35 yard play, the cool thing is, that helped our base stuff out later
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Post by phantom on Jul 7, 2005 14:03:23 GMT -6
I might get to call some offense on the Freshman team. How do you go about picking plays in advance while staying with the down and distance? The thing to remember about coaching lower level teams is that you probably will not have a detailed scouting report on your opponent. Unless things are vastly different there than they are here, there will be games when you'll be going in blind. You probably won't have much of a chance to game plan. What that means is that you'll need to stick, week to week, to a short list of basic plays and make sure your kids understand the rules for each, while you understand how to adjust each to something unexpected. After that, playcalling at the freshman level becomes relatively simple: give the ball to your best runner over your best blocker and keep doing it until they stop you (or run your best pattern to your best receiver). When-if- they stop you know what you have to counter their adjustment.
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Post by gamedog on Jul 14, 2005 20:02:07 GMT -6
tog, I always tell my kids we will be a great line when they can make adjustments in a game on the fly. If you can't tweak it to beat the def then you are in trouble.
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Post by tog on Jul 14, 2005 20:06:53 GMT -6
yeah
the system needs to be complex enough to have that stuff available for the coaches and the kids need to understand what the heck is going on well enough for them to understand how you want to adjust things
and if they don't, you need to be able to find a way to show them
as Gunny Hiway says in Heartbreak Ridge "improvise, adapt, overcome"
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Post by kakavian on Jul 15, 2005 8:50:59 GMT -6
The Best Lesson I learned as an OC/HC... 1) Script your first ten plays, and PRACTICE YOUR SCRIPT 2) Have four "panic" plays highlighted for when your brain locks up, ones you can call in just about any situation. 3) Keep it SIMPLE stupid. 4) ALWAYS ALWAYS talk with your OL coach about what is working up front. 5) You can pull TACKLES 6) If it isnt perfect in practice, dont run it. 7) Conversely, dont be afraid to gamble. Take the Bobby Bowden perspective on third down..."Hang on, one of us is about to score." 8) Kiss your wife/Girlfriend before you cross the sideline. 9) Let the HC make HC decisions..i.e. go for it on fourth etc. 10) Make sure your fly is up, your shoes are tied, no boogers are hanging, and your clipboard is right side up.
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Post by catoc on Jul 15, 2005 11:54:34 GMT -6
Outstanding. #6. Great advice. I agree completely.
#7. Last year my HC would get nervous when I would tell him that someone's band was about to start playing.
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Post by tog on Jul 15, 2005 14:18:21 GMT -6
#7. Last year my HC would get nervous when I would tell him that someone's band was about to start playing. funny i love those "spirited" conversations on the headsets
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Post by trenchcoach on Jul 16, 2005 9:33:26 GMT -6
#7. Last year my HC would get nervous when I would tell him that someone's band was about to start playing. Number 11 - When the QB screws up, don't tell the head coach it's genetic. Don't do this all season and then during game 8 let the HC figure out that you are making fun of him because everyone calls the QB "his son" And I didn't get too nervous.
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Post by tog on Jul 16, 2005 9:35:32 GMT -6
funny
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catoc
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Post by catoc on Jul 21, 2005 22:21:31 GMT -6
Is that anything like a coach, right before going out for the K.O., telling a kid that the coaches' bathroom is really the HC Office and to go on in? And then telling the kid that the door is hard to open and to keep pushing and go inside?
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Post by Coach Morgan on Jul 22, 2005 5:36:47 GMT -6
I'm going to tell a player to go watch the Fox Show "The OC" because it follows the lives of various Offensive Coordinators quite accurately.
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