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Post by dacoachmo on Feb 22, 2008 21:19:11 GMT -6
does anyone use a creative and simple theme for groupings. We are a spread team that will go from mutiliple WRs to TEs to BACKS
my first thoughts...
numbers equal WR
5 = 5 WR
4 = 4 WR 1 RB
3 = 3 WR 1 TE 1 RB
words are backs and TEs
PICKUP = 2 WR,1 TE, 1 FB, 1 RB
TRUCK = 1 WR, 2 TE, 1 FB, 1 RB
SEMI = 2 TE, 2 FB, 1 RB
thanks!
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Post by CVBears on Feb 22, 2008 21:42:57 GMT -6
I don't know if you are looking for something more special here, but...
we just use the numbers, backs, then TE's, and the rest are WR's
21 = 2 rb's, 1 TE and 2 WR's
11 = 1 rb, 1 TE and 3 WR's
32 = 3 rb's, 2 TE's and 0 WR's
10 = 1 rb, 0 TE and 4 WR's
etc.,
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Post by iso on Feb 22, 2008 21:53:23 GMT -6
Are you guys talking about identifying the other guys' personel or getting your kids on the field?
To get the correct kids on the field we just yell and signal the formation and they get on or off the field . . . of course the back-ups must be alert also. They are usually the ones daydreaming when their "big chance" finally arrives. Checking personnel is a fulltime job for one of our coaches on game night.
Am I missing something?
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Post by dacoachmo on Feb 23, 2008 8:02:19 GMT -6
Are you guys talking about identifying the other guys' personel or getting your kids on the field? To get the correct kids on the field we just yell and signal the formation and they get on or off the field . . . of course the back-ups must be alert also. They are usually the ones daydreaming when their "big chance" finally arrives. Checking personnel is a fulltime job for one of our coaches on game night. Am I missing something? nope, right on! I will add a call. thanks for the ideas guys. |
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Post by Coach Huey on Feb 23, 2008 9:58:48 GMT -6
lots of ways to do it... names, numbers...
we use #'s.
first # indicates receivers
second # indicates backs
TE's just "add" numbers to know if they are in ... i.e. if #'s add up to 4 he is in. if add to 3 then both TE's are in
41 = 4 wr / 1 rb / 0 te
31 = 3 wr / 1 rb / 1 te
22 = 2 wr / 2 rb / 1 te
32 = 3 wr / 2 rb / 0 te
50 = 5 wr / 0 rb / 0 te
40 = 4 wr / 0 rb / 1 te
21 = 2 wr / 1 rb / 2 te
12 = 1 wr / 2 rb / 2 te
we use words for "special" packages...
Heavy = 0 wr / 2 rb / 3 te
Stack = 0 wr / 3 rb / 2 te
and if we are adding a special package specifically for that week we also use names or tags to the numbering system...
22 Gun = 2 wr / 2 rb but both are tailbacks (reg. 22 has tb & fb) / 1 te
Mustang = special grouping of specific players. (use these terms to get specific groupings for small number of plays ... i.e. may have a FS playing on offense as another rec or back. designed to get certain kids that are not normally grouped together in the game at same time like the MLB - who has been trained to play some H-back - will be in game rather than normal fb, etc.)
regardless of the methodology, the system should be clearly defined and easy to follow for the players.
personnel groupings are not formations - although, it is obvious that only certain formations can be used. theoretically, we COULD line up in just about all the formations, we don't as that requires more teaching than is really needed.
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Post by dubber on Feb 23, 2008 10:33:11 GMT -6
regardless of the methodology, the system should be clearly defined and easy to follow for the players. personnel groupings are not formations - although, it is obvious that only certain formations can be used. theoretically, we COULD line up in just about all the formations, we don't as that requires more teaching than is really needed. That is good stuff. I'm philosophizing about not changing personnel though (running an empty formation with 21 personnel). I think it has real benefits. "If I line up a kid with no arms as the number 1 rec., the field corner will line up and try to shut him down"--paraphrased Red Faught I do this one play: X----------O-O-X-O-O-Y- ----------------Q------------------------Z -----------F ----------------H And this the next: ----------X-------O-O-X-O-O------------Y ----H-----------------------------Z-----------------F -----------------------Q Now my X and Z are working against slower LBers. Some Quads bunch is a good thing to shift too as well X------O-O-X-O-O-------Y ------------------------F--Z--------------------------H ------------Q Same personnel. Now, naturally, I can sub in a "burner" package or whatever and get 5 wide (probably wouldn't use the undercenter sets with them, just use 21 personnel for empty) I think if you can tempo this with a no huddle, it could be pretty tough. Again, it is all in my head right now---------which is a bad place for any idea. |
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Post by coachweav88 on Feb 23, 2008 15:10:03 GMT -6
Depends on how many "groups" you need. A few years ago, I was running the scout team and the team we played against ran some wing T (red/blue sets), Pro I, and some spread. I narrowed it down to 2 personnel groupings. Red (wing T and I) and Black ( for spread) . When I needed to change personnel I'd call red or black. Seemed to work for us and didn't take long to install.
When I coached college for a year, we went by colors as well, but I don't remember which color was for what, but I'll give you an example.
Red-4 rec, 1 RB
White, 3 rec, 2 RB
Blue 2 Rec, 1 TE, 2 RB
Orange 3 Rec, 1 TE, 1 RB
Brown 1 Rec, 2 TE, 2 RB
Black 0 Rec, 2 TE, 3 RB
I'm sure there's more, but you get my point.
On your play sheet have the formations grouped by color so that you don't have to think about what group needs in there.
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