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Post by coachlock on Oct 10, 2007 7:58:30 GMT -6
Just out of curiosity, how many of you get stuck teaching the "difficult" kids because you are a coach and you can handle them.
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Post by lsrood on Oct 10, 2007 8:09:57 GMT -6
I hear that one all the time. You won't have any problems with so & so cause you can handle them. Gotta love it.
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Post by coachcalande on Oct 10, 2007 8:40:32 GMT -6
Happens plenty.
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Post by realdawg on Oct 10, 2007 8:53:06 GMT -6
I know for sure that this happens. I have more seniority than a couple of members of my department who get to teach honors classes. I was told my scores were too good on our state exam in regular classes to waste me on an honors class. Bottom line is I am good with the kids noone else wants b/c I treat them like humans and with respect. These other two teachers cant handle them
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Post by amikell on Oct 10, 2007 9:07:58 GMT -6
the "best" teachers are the ones who can teach/manage the tough kids. any body can teach self motivated overachievers. teaching honors kids is more about the teacher's ego than about the kids, unfortunately. You can do some fun things with the higher level kids, but it really doesn't take an expert to teach them. I will say that you need content knowledge, but not necessarily pedagogy.
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Post by carookie on Oct 10, 2007 9:14:48 GMT -6
I usually ask for them (at least when they are athletes) I know if they are with me they won't be getting into trouble. Problem with that is word gets around (to students, staff, and admin) and I end up with more students then desks
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Post by saintrad on Oct 10, 2007 9:33:04 GMT -6
hmmm... i have both...i have 2 pre-AP ENglish classes, 2 regular English classes, 1 8th grade govt. class, and 1 7th US History class.
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Post by CVBears on Oct 10, 2007 10:09:05 GMT -6
hmmm... i have both...i have 2 pre-AP ENglish classes, 2 regular English classes, 1 8th grade govt. class, and 1 7th US History class. sorry being off topic, but, teaching six classes? do you get paid extra? or have a seven period day? When do you do your practice plans and administrative work? |
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Post by gacoach on Oct 10, 2007 12:18:14 GMT -6
I'm the ISS (In-School-Suspension) teacher. Enough said.
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Post by lsrood on Oct 10, 2007 12:36:34 GMT -6
ignorantrookie,
Try 7 straight periods in an 8 period day. I do get 30 min for lunch halfway through. No extra pay and no way to control it because of our contract.
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Post by aztec on Oct 10, 2007 13:43:43 GMT -6
I have only taught low end classes. I get the trouble kids, who don't cause problems with me, because I can deal with them. This year I worked out the killer schedule. Computer tech for 2 periods (fixing basic computer problems on campus) and 2 periods PE, conf and Athletics. I have been teaching Earth Science for the last 12 years and the last few are the basic classes.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Oct 10, 2007 13:51:21 GMT -6
Man 7 periods. No way I'd be able to do that. I think it's pretty bad that a lot of teachers do not know how to handle the "bad kids."
I teach at a pretty high end school that is ranked among tops in the nation, therefore the administration is overly strict and kicks out anyone who can possibly put a black eye on the school's reputation.
These kids usually end up goi to the lower end school in the community after being kicked out of mine. This is horrible because no one is trying to better these kid's lives. Isn't that what teaching and coaching is all about? At least that's what I thought.
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Post by coachorr on Oct 10, 2007 21:20:01 GMT -6
I really don't like the A students. I prefer the kids who are down on themselves. Heck, this is the first year I have not taught ESL.
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Post by airraider on Oct 11, 2007 5:18:17 GMT -6
I teach 5 out of 7 55 minute classes. I have a 30 minute lunch on tues-friday. (duty on monday)
I have planning during 6th period, and we have football during 7th.
I usually nap during my lunch/planning down at the field house.. lol
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Post by fbdoc on Oct 11, 2007 7:37:25 GMT -6
You can tell the veteran teacher/coaches by the responses. The good teachers of character, discipline and hard work will always get assigned those "tough" classes because their principals know that they will get the job done. There are teachers who will get to teach those AP kids and there are the ones who will need to teach life lessons to the rest of the them. As an administrator, I'll take the teachers in second bunch any day!
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Post by eickst on Oct 11, 2007 11:12:12 GMT -6
when I was in HS, I were one. It's a good thing you teach math, huh? |
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Post by coachf on Oct 11, 2007 11:41:26 GMT -6
Not only the coach, but I'm also the only male. So, therefore, I get every single problem boy that there is in the grade.
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Post by ajreaper on Oct 11, 2007 12:50:02 GMT -6
WOW, compared to most of you I have a fantastic schedule- 0 hour is only my varsity players (Men's athletic conditioning is the class- off season it's lifting in season ), then hours 1-4 drivers ed, done at 12:10 everyday and have 2.5 - 3 hours before practice to "get things done, watch tape etc". I'm much better off then most here for sure.
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Post by coachorr on Oct 11, 2007 12:54:01 GMT -6
Let me rephrase, it was late last night. What I meant was that I really enjoy working with those kids who feel like they are run out of options and come from rougher backgrounds. It is amazing to me that sometimes all they really need is someone to tell them "nice job" or "I knew you could do it".
DCOHIO, you have taken the words out of my mouth.
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Post by midlineqb on Oct 11, 2007 22:22:00 GMT -6
They sent the trouble makers to my weight lifting classes because I could handle them. I finally got that stopped when I told the administration they were creating a real safety hazard and I wasn't able to help the other kids that needed my help.
I think that this a very common practice in most schools. It shouldn't be that way, all teachers should be able to handle the trouble makers if they are worth their salt as a teacher. JMO.
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