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Post by wingt74 on Oct 28, 2007 8:27:01 GMT -6
Final game of the season Saturday. Close game, we won 21-16. Got up 21-8. HUGE plays included a 1 hand catch and run of 80 yards for a score. Our FB breaking a tackle, making 2 guys missed to score on a 4th and 1. And that same FB making a great catch in the flat, making a guy miss getting a critical 1st down late in the game. Non penalties. We got the other team to jump off-sides twices on our hard count. Won the turnover battle 4-0. Defense played well. They had one drive on us, and one big play. Overall - was a near perfect performance by an opponent that was bigger strong and faster. Was a DW opponent too PRIOR TO THIS GAME. Season is dragging. Not sure if I'll be back next season. Got a little baby at home now. Kids & parents were driving me nuts. Suddenly...I have the urge to come back. What is it about winning that just seems to cure everything??
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Post by airraider on Oct 28, 2007 8:55:21 GMT -6
I know the feeling.. Before Friday I couldnt wait to get out of dodge.. then we were 22-38 for 249 yards and 3tds against one of the best teams in our class.. We still got beat very badly in the end.. but we hung in there for a while.. Then on the way home.. I was thinking.. hmm.. if we could just build on this..
my receiver caught 13 passes for 143 yards.. him and the QB are both only juniors..
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 28, 2007 10:33:43 GMT -6
HERM EDWARDS summed it up best. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.
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Post by coachcalande on Oct 28, 2007 11:47:21 GMT -6
the feeling you have of hanging it up when you feel you dont have much chance to win is not any different than kids who hang it up for the same reason. this is why so much debate occurs on just how important winning really is to kids. winning is fun.
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Post by ajreaper on Oct 28, 2007 12:10:25 GMT -6
Personally I think you do more winning with players who 1st view competing as being fun (same applies to coaches)- they'll do everything with more energy- from practicing to the off season because the love competing- whether it's beat this guy across from me or bench more then that guy. Winnning is a natural extension of competing hard not only on the field during games but elsewhere as well. Winning obviously helps but having those guys who love to compete first gets you through those rough spots in a season much faster then with guys who need a "W" to be highly motivated.
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Post by coachcalande on Oct 28, 2007 12:34:28 GMT -6
agree, love kids who want to compete, nowadays problem is those same competitors will just as soon go compete online at halo 3 or play indoor lacross or soccer or whatever to meet that need to compete if they think they have a chance to win. coaches who give their kids no chance to win will find themselves faced with " maybe i need to hang it up, we dont have any talent here"...
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Post by khalfie on Oct 28, 2007 12:58:38 GMT -6
Why does winning cure all?
Because it beats the alternative...
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Post by fbdoc on Oct 28, 2007 16:26:04 GMT -6
We were on the same low for 3 weeks (of poor performances that lead to losses) then came back with 2 weeks of great efforts that ended with wins. Yesterday we got hammered in every sense of the word so now spirits are low. We happened to have a team get together planned at my house and most of the players did attend to watch the game film (laughter and crying) along with a few college games. Our guys did play hard against a much bigger team and after watching the tape we all "felt" a little better. But a win this coming Friday in our Homecoming game will make us feel even better! I know what you're talking about! Do the WINS - the ones on the scoreboad AND the ones that happen off the game field that no one else sees but you - do they offset the other stuff? If they do, then you need to stay in coaching. If they don't, then its probably time to hang it up.
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tedseay
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Post by tedseay on Oct 29, 2007 7:23:54 GMT -6
last year he had 70 kids out Seventy soocer players at one school? Oh, the humanity... ;D ;D
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Post by wingt74 on Oct 29, 2007 7:24:41 GMT -6
last year he had 70 kids out Seventy soocer players at one school? Oh, the humanity... ;D ;D Oh the Soccer Moms!
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Post by brophy on Oct 29, 2007 7:54:35 GMT -6
this probably isn't the intention of the thread, but WHY it is so important is because that is the way we are 'wired'.
We, as men, are made to pursue and dominate. It is the very essence of life itself.
Winning in the context of football is not much different than pursuing a mate.
We spend so much time fixated, learning, flexing, trying to subdue a desire........that when we come up short, it is creates a void in our life........unfulfilled purpose. And we never become satisfied until we can have satisfying closure to what we've invested our efforts into.
Kinda like PANCAKES.
Ever have a hankering for some good ole griddle cakes? Thats all you think about, you gotta have them. Then by the time you're through with a plate, you're freaking sick of 'em.
until the next time.
The 'joy' is found in the pursuit - Half the fun is getting there.
I mean, you ever WIN a game and still WANT MORE? Hours and hours of teaching and preparation and you only have 48 minutes to make it count. You may have dominated an opponent, but in the back of your mind, you think....."man, if we could've hit ____, that would've been impressive"....."if Johnny made the adjustment to ____, it would've set a record"
A compulsion for perfection.
Made in the image of He who created us. It is inbred to want to breathe life into something that didn't exist previously. The "W" justifies the effort, but I think we are in pursuit of the perfect game (execution, play call, management)
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Post by brophy on Oct 29, 2007 8:55:45 GMT -6
I think i am going to make a drinking game based on how many times you can mention the name "TomOsborne"..............lmao
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CoachJ
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Post by CoachJ on Oct 29, 2007 10:03:40 GMT -6
The obsession with winning is starting to really to get old. I, like anyone else, love to win and hope to win everyone of our games. But the emphasis now seems to be you are nothing if you don't win championships, etc. A coach could go 40-3 losing in 3 championship games in a row and people will think to themselves "maybe X coach doesn't have what it takes to win" I have seen it before. The obsession is winning and dominating and anything short isn't accepted by some people. It seems the more you win, the more you are a victim of your own success.
So in my mind winning cures all because it gets other people off your back and let's go of some of the pressure. That is why your charged up for another season because the high of winning makes things worthwhile.
Now for me, as a coach, I like to see improvement in our players. We lost our last game of the season last year, but I was more charged up for this season then any other because my kids played above anything I could have expected in that loss. They flipped a switch I had been waiting to see all year and it was fun to watch. It is truly inspiring when kids realize they can do much more than they ever expected out of themselves. Belief is a powerful thing and seeing my kids realize their potential was more than enough for me to comeback and push them even further this season.
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Post by ajreaper on Oct 29, 2007 11:27:23 GMT -6
I think a lot of coaches judge the job they did by where there players are 10 years after they graduate- I'd think that's a pretty good indication of how successful we were/are. We all work to win but sometimes in the quest to win we forget the most important part is the journey. The trials and tribulations of our season- the growth of our players and not just in football related skills. We all, from time to time, need to be reminded to appreciate the journey. If we are not enjoying that it's time to call it quits- for awhile anyhow.
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