World Class Female Superstar(s) in NCAA Football?

I'll bite ...

here is an article about "speed" of men vs women

members.cox.net/kdrum/Menwomensports.htm

Already had a girl football player at our school - became an All County kicker, good distance and great placement - even made a few tackles in games. She was an outstanding soccer athlete and we were (still are) a small school. She could compete and excel at our level.

Having said that, how many of us have had a great track kid with speed to burn but also had hands of stone? Or a kid with all the quickness in the world but would not hit/tackle? The statement Built like Tarzan - Plays like Jane is probably applicable here. A female can have all the tools to run 4.4 in the 40 and still NOT be a football player, especially at the college level! I'll take 4.4 or 4.5 any day of the week where I'm at now, but even at the D-II level a kid that is a "football player" and who runs a 4.6 is going to destroy a faster track kid (male or female) who can't hit.

Nothing against the ladies, but its a little bit more than speed out there.

not going to happen.

Easiest way, Has there ever been a female playing football at the highschool level that even made all-conference at a non-kicker position?

Sure you get a girl here and there playing youth football...maybe even getting some PT, but thats it.

The fastest kid in our school right now is a girl. She is a three sport all state athlete and I have no idea what her 40 time is but our fastest kid was (only) a 4.7 and she beat him on the track with blocks, on the track without blocks, and on the grass in cleats and not by a little...

She isn't a big girl or nothing so football wouldn't be her sport but as a sophomore I'd have let her play in our freshmore games and return kicks at the very least.

i doubt it will happen for the following reason. the Q angle of womans hips lends them to have a high rate of acl injuries. more woman have acl tears then mean do.

marion jones who annually was the fastest woman in the 100 meters runs like a 10.75 100 meters. high school boys can run that fast.

Who is the best female athlete in the world right now?

What position could she play besides kicker?

We have a girl shotputter right now that is close to 6' tall weighs right about 200, benches 195 and squat over 300 pounds. I don't have any doubt that she could compete on our football team (Class 2A). That said I don't see women being able to compete at the D1 level, any woman. How many NCAA women's basketball teams that use men pulled from the general population to practice tells you something about the difference between elite male and female athletes.

while I DO respect your thoughts on this, I really feel we have to put our framing into perspective.

But I feel the 'studies' are just that. There are inferring that because X=X and Y=Y, then X+Y=Z. That isn't always so. That is very similiar to assuming any kid that can run fast, should be a good football player.

Serena Williams, 5'10" 180lbs


I coached an adult women's football team for a season, so that is probably where my reference is skewed. Football is football, teaching schemes and techniques is actually easier with women. We had more than a few 6'+, 180lb+ athletes, some DI track runners,softballers, and soccer players. Like I said, scheme and technique-wise, they had it, but from a mental / emotional standpoint, they were on the level of a 9 year old team (nothing against these fine women, the milieu of the FIELD is not something normal). Not only that, but the SPEED of the game between athletic women is completely different than men. Our fastest of fastest runner was 4.9 (yes, we actually timed them). Now, I realize the hypothesis for this discussion is a 4.4 runner (has any woman ever come close?) -- FloJo ran the very best time ever in the 100 at 10.49 (FloJo was amazing), and even that can be bested by High School males.


Unfortunately, the dualistic dynamic girls/women have to juggle being a 'football player' is insane. Football is violence. How many women in society do we CELEBRATE for violence?
It goes completely against what we accept as a society (in ANY culture).

Women appear to be tougher than boys when they are viewed through the context of what a "girl" is. A dominant alpha girl amongst girls is one thing, but put her in a PHYSICAL environment with 11 other alpha MALES and her impact will be significantly diminished.

At small schools, many girls that play football are starters (have seen one small school MLB that was probably the best one on her team).


I think there are TWO parts to this discussion (need to recognize this).

1) WOULD YOU TAKE A CHANCE ON A DI WOMAN ATHLETE?
Unequivocally, YES....why not?

2) WOULD A WOMAN BE ABLE TO PHYSICALLY BE ON PAR WITH DI FOOTBALL TALENT?
I highly doubt it. 4.4 speed is supremely gifted and being successful as a college football player takes more than just "running" and "catching". I highly doubt the VERY BEST woman athlete could compete in football at the DIII level, let alone DI

the same girl transferred.



I'd be all about recruiting girls to play in HS. I just wouldn't waste a scholarship on an unproven commodity (and I doubt an HC or recruiter would, either).

Guys play football because its "fun" ("Fun"= social prestige and girls). A girl WANTS to date a dominate male athlete, and nothing typifies male physical dominance like football.

How many guys would be lauding over dating a girl football player? Social mores would hinder most women from taking on a true masculine role

Good feedback and Brophy's post with the incredible Ms. Williams photo was very telling as well, and she is a great athlete on all accounts.

In terms of a football coach & program taking a chance on a female superstar - like I mentioned earlier - it would make sense at the Div. 1-AA level, where there is less World Class talent as opposed to the 1A level.

In other words, respectfully, the lower the level of collegaite football - is directly relative to the greater the odds that a Female Superstar can successfully participate with them.

However, we are talking about the VERY best female athlete of the bunch to try and succeed at that level.

a. In terms of a woman being unable to handle the physical pounding at the 1-AA level - well, most Male WR's do not get involved in the fray that often per say (shadowing the DB's, stalk blocking and run offs) and Cut blocking has done wonders for smaller WR's right now.

b. Role Playing that Female superstar WR, 25 - 30 plays per game would not only spare her the grind of an every down physical toll, but would also keep her fresh, she would be used as a decoy on some downs, catch a few passes and maybe a fade or reverse. And another offshoot of course would be generating HUGE amounts of money and PR for that program.

c. To forecast and correctly gauge the exponential growth rate of women playing football at the H.S. level over the next 5 years, and then to project the Very Best female athlete to ascend to the collegiate level in some form is not an impossible reach.

d. The best Male & Female athletes are extremely competitive and want to beat everybody in virtually any form of competition. When the opportunity arises for a World Class Female to take a chance on the football field at the 1-AA level, not only will she take it, but the potential upside (historic & financial) for her will be mind blowing of course

e. Evolution cannot be stopped...but a Revolution can.

Will we ever see a Female football Revolution?

No...

But, are the Male & Female superstar athletes pushing the envelope of human accomplishments at a rapid rate?

Yes.

KB

For generating PR for a program when a superstar female athlete joins and actually Plays for a 1-AA team, sure, that will certainly create tons of buzz and coverage.

Yes, the games would be on TV or Internet for that reason, and yes Winning helps everything.

I know I would watch to see what happens. And, the more success she had, then the more people would watch. And of course, it would definitely Ramp Up Female TV & Internet viewership by a large margin, thereby increasing ratings.

In terms of generating money that seems obvious:

Ad revenue, ticket sales, t-shirts, tv-shows, hats, jerseys, and on and on, and on. There are many possibilities for income generation.

Hope that helps.

KB

You'd pay to see it? Thats kind of harsh.

I won't argue that women physically couldn't play at that high of a level. I was just arguing that the mental aspect of it may not be unreachable for girls in the next 10 or so years.