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Post by airraider on Oct 17, 2007 19:38:26 GMT -6
I figured this would be a good conversation starter..
we have rotated 3 different QB's this season.. have our general starter.. and two others who play slot receivers who each bring a little something to the table, but none are the total package..
last week we dabled and this week sold out on a "no QB" offense..
Have Quads on 1 side and twins on the other.. the normal QB is the slot to the weak side..
Any of the 3 can come in full speed motion and catch the shotgun snap.. we run jet.. sprint out pass concepts.. reverses.. screens.. counters (plant and back)..
Has looked pretty good in practice.. have not missed a snap all week.. get pretty good blocking on the perimeter being that 4 are out there.. they cant just sell out to the motion side because of the counter, reverse, and screen away from the motion..
works good with the sprint out game we already had in..
Heck, we are 0-7.. the kids LOVE it.. so now its just time to have a little fun..
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Post by neil on Oct 17, 2007 21:47:46 GMT -6
Please tape this and post it for us on YouTube.
I would love to see this!
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Post by saintrad on Oct 17, 2007 23:11:47 GMT -6
ahhh the sounds of the lonesome polecat come to mind.
let us know how it works airraider.
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Post by CVBears on Oct 18, 2007 0:12:16 GMT -6
Please tape this and post it for us on YouTube. I would love to see this! I would love to see this on film too
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Post by coachmoore42 on Oct 18, 2007 0:32:23 GMT -6
Please tape this and post it for us on YouTube. I would love to see this! I would love to see this on film too I am with you two guys. Bring on the film, lol. I've thought about something similar, but I don't think I could've been the first to try it. Good luck.
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Post by airraider on Oct 18, 2007 5:09:28 GMT -6
Like many of us.. I have thought about this for a few years, but never had the guts to try it... but what better time to try it??
I will definitely put up some video..
I might film practice this evening if its not raining and post some plays..
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Post by gunandrun on Oct 18, 2007 5:24:03 GMT -6
0-7 makes you think of and do things you never thought you would do. Love to see the video. I am an old Runs and sshoot guy so we are double slot. Yes, thought of Lonesome Polecat come to mind. Make it basketball on grass. Good luck.
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Post by hawkfan on Oct 18, 2007 7:10:06 GMT -6
Echo everyone else in this thread. I would love to see this on tape!
I was thinking about this...if your motion guy takes the snap each play, the DL is going to eventually get a heck of a jump on the snap. Have you simulated any of that during practice? Just a thought!
Good luck coach!
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Post by lsrood on Oct 18, 2007 8:20:12 GMT -6
Coach,
You never know, you might just be onto the "Next Big" trend. Good Luck, I too would love to see it on video.
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Post by fort on Oct 18, 2007 11:11:46 GMT -6
I was toying with 6-wide on paper last week. Very intriguing stuff. I'm with the other guys here: Please, please, please post video if you run it! Good luck, coach.
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Post by coachbdud on Oct 18, 2007 11:18:04 GMT -6
why not just go super crazy and run A-11
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Post by coachf on Oct 18, 2007 11:53:15 GMT -6
ahhh the sounds of the lonesome polecat come to mind. let us know how it works airraider. Yeah..thought the same thing. You could be very creative with where you line up your OL. You could also get very creative with who the eligible receivers will be. Interested in seeing it.
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Post by kramer19 on Oct 18, 2007 13:36:09 GMT -6
Art Briles has put the QB in motion to receive the snap. Believe he did it when Kolb first got to Houston. Have not seen Briles do it recently, however I do not get to see them as often as I used to. If one of your kids is also left handed this could be very interesting. Could also use a sniffer who takes a short snap for a quick hitting wedge play whil one of your QBs is in motion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2007 14:05:26 GMT -6
In answer to your question...Yes, I think you've lost your mind
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Post by dhooper on Oct 18, 2007 14:58:56 GMT -6
Good luck let us know how it goes. I could see some nice counters in my head.
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Post by airraider on Oct 18, 2007 16:38:07 GMT -6
Hey guys.. I video taped our run through today.. I am importing it now.. and hope to have it uploaded to youtube in the next hour or so.. I will post the link then..
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Post by airraider on Oct 18, 2007 18:07:11 GMT -6
With 5.1 40 yard dash backs is the jet going to get those kids wide? If we can block.. lol
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Post by airraider on Oct 18, 2007 18:13:55 GMT -6
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Post by rjam on Oct 18, 2007 19:34:13 GMT -6
i like it
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Post by dubber on Oct 18, 2007 19:42:26 GMT -6
With 5.1 40 yard dash backs is the jet going to get those kids wide? Beauty of gun jet sweep.........slow kids can run it well, especially if they know when and where the cuts are
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Post by dubber on Oct 18, 2007 19:48:15 GMT -6
I want game some game footage when you get it.........wow is all I can say right now.
what kind of 'wow' that is.......I dunno
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Post by Shotgun1 on Oct 18, 2007 20:12:02 GMT -6
I like the concept but those kids are dang slow. But, very interesting stuff!
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Post by dubber on Oct 18, 2007 20:15:43 GMT -6
Beauty of gun jet sweep.........slow kids can run it well, especially if they know when and where the cuts are Slow, very slow kids in space vs fast kids, dont see how it will work. IMHO read the blocks? Jet sweep from gun is not the "to the jungle"/sidelines type of play that jet from undercenter is......more like stretch/OZ ala tog's jet article, it can even hit in the B-gap (like an iso) if the DE bails out. He's not in space, he has blockers....... Tog's article: coachhuey.proboards42.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=offarticles&thread=1168026549&page=1#1186949931It explains it a lot better than I do. IMO, it is the best way to get/threaten the edge of the defense when you have sloooooow kids
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Post by airraider on Oct 18, 2007 21:12:52 GMT -6
I like the concept but those kids are dang slow. But, very interesting stuff! Tell me about it.. lol.. Now, to their credit.. it was "walk" through.. and they were told to go about 3/4 speed.. some might have taken it to heart.. The QB is one of the high 4.9 guys and faster than he looked on some of those motions.. after the video.. I got on to him about being so slow.. Another thing we are gonna do.. come out in a 2 tight double wing and shift into this.. that might be as close to a double wing guy as I may ever come.. lol
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Post by khalfie on Oct 18, 2007 21:20:08 GMT -6
I like the concept but those kids are dang slow. But, very interesting stuff! Tell me about it.. lol.. Now, to their credit.. it was "walk" through.. and they were told to go about 3/4 speed.. some might have taken it to heart.. The QB is one of the high 4.9 guys and faster than he looked on some of those motions.. after the video.. I got on to him about being so slow.. Another thing we are gonna do.. come out in a 2 tight double wing and shift into this.. that might be as close to a double wing guy as I may ever come.. lol Don't do it coach... its the act of a desparate man... run your system... you go gadget and that blows up, all your credibility goes with it. Some times you are simply out manned... in those times put your team in the best position to be competitive. Don't fall for the fools gold of success against the scout team... that'll kill you every time... Know this... 1. With inferior personnel... the three down linemen they'll put on you will blow up anything in the middle. 2. The two or 3 safties they'll have over the top, will intercept all deep throws. 3. They'll put two LB's in the Flat to disrupt the underneath and the Jet action... 4. Not to mention the 2 guys they'll put on the edge to bring the pressure... who will catch your guys in the backfield. If you sell out, you are saying you don't believe in your system... if you don't believe, no one will believe... Maybe cool for a trick play of 2... but don't run away from what you hang your hat on... if the system is sound, run the system.
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Post by dubber on Oct 18, 2007 21:25:09 GMT -6
Another thing we are gonna do.. come out in a 2 tight double wing and shift into this.. that might be as close to a double wing guy as I may ever come.. lol I like this. Put in the wedge and run it on a quick count occasionally. Use whatever your shift wording is......... "Shift!" Run the wedge tough and I'd bet great on the GL
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Post by neil on Oct 18, 2007 21:25:30 GMT -6
Great stuff. That looks like a good series of plays. I really like the throwback jailbreak screen.
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Post by airraider on Oct 18, 2007 21:26:17 GMT -6
Tell me about it.. lol.. Now, to their credit.. it was "walk" through.. and they were told to go about 3/4 speed.. some might have taken it to heart.. The QB is one of the high 4.9 guys and faster than he looked on some of those motions.. after the video.. I got on to him about being so slow.. Another thing we are gonna do.. come out in a 2 tight double wing and shift into this.. that might be as close to a double wing guy as I may ever come.. lol Don't do it coach... its the act of a desparate man... run your system... you go gadget and that blows up, all your credibility goes with it. Some times you are simply out manned... in those times put your team in the best position to be competitive. Don't fall for the fools gold of success against the scout team... that'll kill you every time... Know this... 1. With inferior personnel... the three down linemen they'll put on you will blow up anything in the middle. 2. The two or 3 safties they'll have over the top, will intercept all deep throws. 3. They'll put two LB's in the Flat to disrupt the underneath and the Jet action... 4. Not to mention the 2 guys they'll put on the edge to bring the pressure... who will catch your guys in the backfield. If you sell out, you are saying you don't believe in your system... if you don't believe, no one will believe... Maybe cool for a trick play of 2... but don't run away from what you hang your hat on... if the system is sound, run the system. Coach, I agree completely.. but.. There is nothing really too different from this and our base stuff.. we have been running Jet and sprint outs all year.. just doing them a little different now.. all the counter stuff and shuffle reverse stuff we have done too.. Just giving it a little different look.. Thinking of it all as more of a trick formation than a trick play..
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Post by airraider on Oct 18, 2007 21:48:20 GMT -6
Great stuff. That looks like a good series of plays. I really like the throwback jailbreak screen. Thanks coach.. the jailbreak has really been one of our better plays this year..
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Post by hawkfan on Oct 18, 2007 21:59:53 GMT -6
Echo everyone else in this thread. I would love to see this on tape! I was thinking about this...if your motion guy takes the snap each play, the DL is going to eventually get a heck of a jump on the snap. Have you simulated any of that during practice? Just a thought!Good luck coach! Posted again for prosperity (bolded). Airraider..you have a hard count built into this?
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