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Post by midlinemoney on Feb 7, 2007 13:32:09 GMT -6
Just curious if your state separates the public and privates or if a multiplier is used to adjust the enrollment of privates.
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Post by mitch on Feb 7, 2007 13:42:23 GMT -6
In oklahoma private schools have to petition the state athletic association for admittance. I believe there is a vote among all the state superintendants that approves or disapproves. Once they are in, their actual enrollment is what is used to classify them.
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Post by djwesp on Feb 7, 2007 13:51:53 GMT -6
1.75 here.
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Post by tog on Feb 7, 2007 14:36:55 GMT -6
let's keep this one civil boys
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Post by midlinemoney on Feb 7, 2007 14:43:40 GMT -6
i'm not wanting to start an arguement. just looking for some information.
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Post by poweriguy on Feb 7, 2007 14:50:48 GMT -6
I'm in California. I really can't speak for the whole state, as every section has their own rules and such. But there are no restrictions on the privates that I know of. They are basically treated as every other school.
What we do have , if a small private dominates a division for a number of years, they can petition the section to be moved up a division. So that school of 400 students can play with the schools of say 800-1000.
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Post by tog on Feb 7, 2007 15:08:09 GMT -6
i'm not wanting to start an arguement. just looking for some information. I know, this topic just tends to get heated sometimes.
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Post by coachpoe on Feb 7, 2007 16:39:21 GMT -6
1.35 in MO, petition going before the state to seperate private from public in everything but football...don't think it will pass luckily.
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Post by coachdawhip on Feb 7, 2007 18:15:42 GMT -6
use to be a 1.5 multiplier for private schools that played in the GHSA and starting next year they can play in their regular class. Yes tog this can get very heated.
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Post by stackattack on Feb 7, 2007 20:45:33 GMT -6
No multiplier in Ohio. Privates play right along with the publics based on their enrollment. There is talk of a multiplier but I don't see it happening.
Interesting story in PA when I played high school ball. My HS team played in a conference full of teams from the largest classification, but there was a small private school in the league that routinely won the league or at the top every year. Once they hit the playoffs in their smaller classification, they steamrolled through everyone to a championship every year. At about the time I graduated, the conference and state association gave them a choice, either find another league or voluntarily move yourself up to the largest classification and compete there in the playoffs. They choose to move up and while competitive, haven't won a state title since.
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Post by neil on Feb 7, 2007 21:52:50 GMT -6
Louisiana has got to be the most backward thinking state in the union.
It seems that most states have a multiplier, here in LA we do it a little different.
A few years back a little school named Evangel Christian started playing ball and was getting beat. They got better, with good coaches, but mostly really good high school football players, and started winning. They won it 1A and moved up to 3A two years later. They won it there in back-to-back-to-back fashion and moved up to 5A they went ahead and finished their 60-0 run with a 5A championship in their 1st season in 5A. That was in 1998. By 2004 they had won 4 more 5A state championships.
All along John Curtis Christian School in New Orleans was winning 20+ State Championships in less than 35 years of existence.
Both school have enrollments of around 250 students.
While most schools in 1A and 2A were excited about seeing these powers play up in classification, making it a little more competitive for themselves, the "big boys" in 5A and 4A were tired of getting beat by these little school and to punish the schools, in hopes of deterring prospective student-athletes, passed legislation saying that schools could no longer play up in classification. So for the past two seasons, teams in 1A and 2A have been battling it out to see who can win the coveted State Runner-up trophy.
Next year, it will be a little more fun. With re-classification every two years, both schools now show 2A enrollments and will compete against each other for the State Championship.
So while most states are making them play up, by using a multiplier, we make them stay down.
That makes sense.
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