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Post by wingt74 on Jan 12, 2008 20:16:38 GMT -6
I'm screaming at the TV to take Grant out of the game. For those that didn't see, on his first two touches, he had two fumbles.
He goes on to carry 27 times for 201 and 3 TDs.
I think with the Zone blocking scheme, it's critical to have to right running back...someone that is patient and can cut back against the grain. Grant is that.
Fantastic game. See a team go down 14-0, with a running back that fumbles twice...only to come back and dominate.
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Post by Yash on Jan 12, 2008 20:28:47 GMT -6
From an X and O's standpoint I think one of the really good thigns the packers do is with their double fullback look. They run zone with two fullbacks in there and that backside fullback does a great job of picking up backside leakage allowing the offensive line worry only about the front side blocking. many times I saw him pick up a backside scraper and keep him off Grant. The last 10 weeks I think that the packers have run the zone scheme as well as anyone in the NFL. Grant had 960 yards on only 8 starts.
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Post by Yash on Jan 12, 2008 20:35:08 GMT -6
Grant does a great job of cutting back but its After hes passed the line of scrimmage and cuts back away from the pursuit.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 12, 2008 20:35:34 GMT -6
yash--I agree..I searched for the thread about the packer's dbl fullback formation, but couldn't find it (obviously didn't use the right keywords). I think it is a clever twist on the dbl TE dbl flanker set, with the FB still being able to reach block on the perimeter as well as seal off and create the cutback lane on inside zone is pretty nifty.
Also, I wanted to say that this was the first time in a while where the old "bad weather helps the offense" axiom actually held true. I wonder though, if the conditions hindered tackling. I saw lots of reaching defensively, and I wonder if that was because the footing wasn't good enough to really dig in and generate some hipsnap.
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Post by Yash on Jan 12, 2008 20:39:34 GMT -6
Do you really think the weather played an advantage to the offense? I think that it hurt the seahawks a bit because they couldn't see the ball to catch it. GB still through the ball well in the snow. I think the packs running game didn't matter on the weather, they just executed really well today as they have done the second half of the season. What a perfect back for the zone offense Grant is.
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Post by phantom on Jan 12, 2008 20:52:01 GMT -6
From a coaching standpoint I think that the most important thing was the Packers's ability to come back from the horrendous start. What do you think allowed that?
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Post by Yash on Jan 12, 2008 20:54:12 GMT -6
Time, there were still 56 minutes left in the game. They didn't have to change a thing. Just don't turn the ball over and play your game and you are fine. You figured you were gonna score atleast 14 anyway so just gotta hold on D
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Post by wingt74 on Jan 12, 2008 21:11:24 GMT -6
From a coaching standpoint I think that the most important thing was the Packers's ability to come back from the horrendous start. What do you think allowed that? The Packers had a great game plan against the Seahawks...they didn't even use their 5 wide receiver set that has been giving so many other teams fits during the year. I think the Seahawks were gameplaying so much against the pass (and the SPREAD!) that they forgot about the Packers ability to line up with a excellent blocking TE (Bubba Franks) and pound the ball against a fast but undersize front 7 of the seahawks. When the Packers drove the length of the field to cut the lead to 7 (14-7), I think the confidence levels went up. It would have been different if the Seahawks had two long drives to get a 14-0 lead... |
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Post by phantom on Jan 12, 2008 21:38:44 GMT -6
Time, there were still 56 minutes left in the game. They didn't have to change a thing. Just don't turn the ball over and play your game and you are fine. You figured you were gonna score atleast 14 anyway so just gotta hold on D Sure. Rationally, I knew that but you have to sell that to the players. Starts like that can snowball. |
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Post by Yash on Jan 12, 2008 21:44:37 GMT -6
They can, but I think that they looked at it as, they haven't stopped us, we stopped ourselves. At that point all you have to do is not turn the ball over. It wasn't like they weren't blocking anyone or anything. Grant gashed them the play before his second fumble. It was smart of McCarthy to go right back to him. YOu saw him double up quite a bit the rest of the game.
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Post by cmow5 on Jan 12, 2008 23:24:35 GMT -6
Where did Grant go to school?  |
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Post by Yash on Jan 13, 2008 0:22:07 GMT -6
University of College football in america aka Notre Dame!!! Go domers!
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Post by superpower on Jan 13, 2008 7:00:19 GMT -6
The coaching lesson for us from this game is to stick to the game plan, as others have mentioned above. As a DW coach, I hear people say that our offense isn't a good come-from-behind scheme. It was great to see GB just stick to the game plan and take control of the game by running the ball.
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 13, 2008 8:20:28 GMT -6
With only 4 minutes or so gone in the game any offense should be ok coming from behind. Would have been a bit different if there was 4 minutes remaining- then it's very true some offenses would be placed in a serious bind trying to come from behind. You have plenty of time left, you are at home and have a hall of fame QB- no reason at all to panic.
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Post by phantom on Jan 13, 2008 17:04:20 GMT -6
You know that and I know that. I was listening on the radio and wasn't panicked at all. We all know, though, that it's different on the field where emotion plays a bigger role.
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Post by los on Jan 13, 2008 21:32:03 GMT -6
Thats a good question Phantom, like Yash said, its an easier "sell" to the players... "that we're ok and can get back in this thing", when the deficit in the score was caused, for the most part, by your own mistakes in execution, rather than by the other teams dominance. Especially, when you've already seen that you can move the ball, if you just cut out the unforced errors. Its a "confidence" thing I think? The waaaay tougher sell, would be.... when you're being completely thrashed in every phase of the game. Its hard to know what to say then.... if you can't come up with some "real" answers to the dilema?
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