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Post by coachcalande on Feb 1, 2008 16:38:40 GMT -6
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mikeger
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Post by mikeger on Apr 21, 2008 8:47:51 GMT -6
After having a few scrimmages, I am still having a little trouble running the wedge against a heavy DL. What they do after the 2nd quarter is rollblocking one or two and the MLB takes a run and hits the Line hard or jumping over them to the carrier. How do you handle such crazy MLBs? Rollblocking is so effective against the wedge... a 10 season DL absolutely does not care about "getting stampeded". The risk of injury on the OL is much greater getting hit hard by a flying MLB.
I still believe in it! How would you handle this?
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Post by superpower on Apr 21, 2008 9:47:09 GMT -6
After having a few scrimmages, I am still having a little trouble running the wedge against a heavy DL. What they do after the 2nd quarter is rollblocking one or two and the MLB takes a run and hits the Line hard or jumping over them to the carrier. How do you handle such crazy MLBs? Rollblocking is so effective against the wedge... a 10 season DL absolutely does not care about "getting stampeded". The risk of injury on the OL is much greater getting hit hard by a flying MLB. I still believe in it! How would you handle this? Do you have anything else that comes off the wedge action? It sure sounds as if they are begging for a play-action pass or a wedge reverse or a qb keeper off the wedge action.
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mikeger
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Post by mikeger on Apr 21, 2008 16:50:29 GMT -6
I am currently trying Coach Gregory's Plays. (Thank you for your incredible amount of work and passion!) We run the Wedge off BUCK (BUCK Action behind) and RIP (with Super Power Action behind). What Series would you recommend?
If we run several Off Tackle Super Power and then Wedge with Super Power fake, and they stop us for no yards because the MLB is not playing honest but flying into the wedge... something is going dead wrong. I admit that. There the Wedge should work whenever you call it.
But how can you start a Wedge Series to run a Wedge Counter off? If they keep rolling and flying us for 0-1 yd gain? Did anyone of you encounter such a hard DL?
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tedseay
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Post by tedseay on Apr 24, 2008 9:21:12 GMT -6
I am currently trying Coach Gregory's Plays. (Thank you for your incredible amount of work and passion!) We run the Wedge off BUCK (BUCK Action behind) and RIP (with Super Power Action behind). What Series would you recommend? If we run several Off Tackle Super Power and then Wedge with Super Power fake, and they stop us for no yards because the MLB is not playing honest but flying into the wedge... something is going dead wrong. I admit that. There the Wedge should work whenever you call it. But how can you start a Wedge Series to run a Wedge Counter off? If they keep rolling and flying us for 0-1 yd gain? Did anyone of you encounter such a hard DL? Coach: Do you have a Counter (or better yet a Counter XX) play installed? THAT'S the action to use behind your Wedge play...you also want to pick your spots when calling the Wedge, and not just save it for short yardage and goal line situations. As a surprise weapon out of Double Wing, it can be deadly.
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Post by hithard on Apr 25, 2008 4:00:52 GMT -6
Wedge isn't a play. it's an attitude!
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mikeger
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Post by mikeger on Apr 28, 2008 8:22:21 GMT -6
Thanks for your replies, Coaches.
Of course, we got a Counter installed, but i figured that the counter thread does only keep Outside Defenders to play honest. Mike and DL stays to brutally roll and crash into the wedge, which is enough to stop it... did you never encounter this? Trap and Pass at Mike's Position does help a little, but if you want to use the wedge as a base play (I planned that)... over and over again... does run down the offense. Not the defense. It is hard to "stampede" over a grown up DL, when he is rolling.
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mikeger
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Post by mikeger on May 16, 2008 1:38:40 GMT -6
I am desperately searching for Videos of Double Wing Teams in or above High School. I would appreciate any short or smallest snippet of video material. I need to show those guys in Europe how well you coaches are doing. Thank you very much in advance, coaches!
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Post by wedgemeister on May 16, 2008 2:25:17 GMT -6
Coach, I am in my 5th year of running the DW in Germany. Comparing european semi pro with youth football seems a bit harsh, maybe even a little bit arrogant, but I know for a fact that the DW works well over here.
Considering the roll block, yes that happens but usually its not a problem if you have wedge sweep installed.
Where do you coach in Europe ?
I´d be glad to be of assistance.
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mikeger
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Post by mikeger on May 19, 2008 15:44:22 GMT -6
Hey Coach,
thank you for asking. I am coaching at Muenster in your country. I saw you posting in a german forum, are you still with the dragons? Nice to meet you here!
Most important questions for me, that come to my mind immediately:
I made some terrible experiences with the Double Tight. Our OLine wasnt able to handle 10 Man in the box, bunch passes were blitzed. An excellent Defense. We are currently switching to use more spread formations, such as Loose. I am not sure how to run a non-motion action behind the Loose, though. Do your backs get to the handoff or toss fast enough when playing in spread formations? How is your wedge doing and what formations are you running?
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jlt
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Post by jlt on May 19, 2008 15:45:52 GMT -6
The team in the UK that ran it was Newcastle Raiders. They reached the semi finals of the national championships at colleigate level before losing my a field goal (I think) in a v high scoring game. Just seemed that nobody could stop it. It was a case of them just being outscored.
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Post by wedgemeister on May 19, 2008 23:29:59 GMT -6
Coach, I am with the Hamburg Pioneers now. We won our season opener 30-28 on sunday.
my suggestions don´t change the formation yet. Stay in base double tight. What is your blocking scheme, god, tko,sab?
PM me your email. Muenster is not that far away. Maybe 2,5 hours.
I am sure we can work something out.
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