ray
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Post by ray on May 18, 2006 9:38:58 GMT -6
I'm sure this has been covered, but for you offensive coordinators, what defense gives you the most problems?
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Post by rathernot on May 18, 2006 10:47:18 GMT -6
Doesn't matter the defense as long as it is well coached, has some speed, and can tackle.
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Post by cqmiller on May 18, 2006 10:54:52 GMT -6
well said rathernot. If a defense is disciplined and well-coached, then it's gonna be a battle.
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moose18
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Post by moose18 on May 18, 2006 10:58:12 GMT -6
I agree with the last two posters, but to answer your question my team tends to have trouble with teams who have overhang defenders. Its really the only thing that makes our assignments change
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Post by brophy on May 18, 2006 11:02:15 GMT -6
4-3 Cover 2 seems to offer the most fits....because teams that run it, run it a majority of downs and keep it simple....and rep, rep, rep it.
That being said, if you have the athletes, I've seen defenses rely on the 46 to just annihilate an offense.
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ray
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Post by ray on May 18, 2006 11:40:09 GMT -6
Thanks moose18. Bringing players off the edge can give us problems as well. And I agree with everyone else - in that as long as you are well coached, have great athletes, discipline and can run you will have a good defense. But every offense scheme has a weakness and I would like to know some of yours. Don't worry I doubt I'm on your schedule. But would like to see what gives teams the most problems.
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Post by Coach Huey on May 19, 2006 6:31:52 GMT -6
some form of a 2-safety defense. especially one in which they pattern read and can mix up quarters, halves, man...
the blitzing defenses are not what gives us the most "fits" but rather those that play the "new wave" way of stopping the spread. the 4-1 or 3-2 stuff with the OLB's playing slightly outside....keying run & filling fast, key pass fly to flat/hook. this type of scheme gives us more fits than the "here we come" stuff that was initially tried to stop the spread.
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Post by groundchuck on May 19, 2006 6:45:51 GMT -6
some form of a 2-safety defense. especially one in which they pattern read and can mix up quarters, halves, man... the blitzing defenses are not what gives us the most "fits" but rather those that play the "new wave" way of stopping the spread. the 4-1 or 3-2 stuff with the OLB's playing slightly outside....keying run & filling fast, key pass fly to flat/hook. this type of scheme gives us more fits than the "here we come" stuff that was initially tried to stop the spread. So are you saying that the defenses that seem to give the spread (at least your team) problems are the "patient" d-coordinators who do come after you all the time and play a kind of a cat and mouse game mixing up coverages and basically not allowing you to make a big play by forcing short throws and rallying to the ball. Using occational blitzes to catch you off guard a a little etc.
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Post by saintrad on May 19, 2006 7:22:39 GMT -6
yes...those DCs are hard to deal with. A disciplined play caller will be fine against them, but being an OC myself it is difficult to do that for a whole game.
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Post by cqmiller on May 19, 2006 7:38:18 GMT -6
It's also hard for a HS quarterback to throw the underneath stuff ALL GAME. They tend to want to "force it" to their intermediate/deep WR's. Well disciplined defenses are the hardest to face.
Blitzing defenses are easy to face. The DL/LB's are easy to just "wash down", and you can get some HUGE plays against them. Then they start blitzing more, and you get even more big plays.
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Post by coachdawhip on May 19, 2006 11:16:50 GMT -6
I agree with Huey, teams that play a 2 shell defense and mix up coverages well, if you team throws the ball more than 10 times a game and overall team speed that has everyone rally to the ball, that screws us up more than teams reading there keys.
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ray
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Post by ray on May 20, 2006 8:09:14 GMT -6
Thats great information. Thanks.
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Post by kcbazooka on May 21, 2006 14:30:58 GMT -6
I can't believe nobody beat me to the punch - The best defense is a great offense!!!
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Post by coachcalande on May 21, 2006 14:38:42 GMT -6
the one with better players than me...that hurts. yknow, you run right, all studs, left, all studs, try to pass...all studs...its a killer.
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Post by sls on May 21, 2006 16:29:17 GMT -6
A team that is good at disguising coverages gives us troubles.
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Post by silkyice on May 21, 2006 17:13:45 GMT -6
some form of a 2-safety defense. especially one in which they pattern read and can mix up quarters, halves, man... the blitzing defenses are not what gives us the most "fits" but rather those that play the "new wave" way of stopping the spread. the 4-1 or 3-2 stuff with the OLB's playing slightly outside....keying run & filling fast, key pass fly to flat/hook. this type of scheme gives us more fits than the "here we come" stuff that was initially tried to stop the spread. I agree with Coach Huey on this one. Our main rival does this exactly and has been ultra successful with it. We seem to be the only school that can actually score more than two touchdowns on them. Against this type of D most of my runs have to look like pass and some of my passes have to look like run. Not easy to do out of the shotgun!
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ray
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Post by ray on May 22, 2006 9:50:32 GMT -6
So the consensus is.....
Vs. a Offense that throws the football
#1 2 safety defenses #2 Mix up and disguise coverages #3 Force the underneath throws #4 Be patient and take calculated risk when blitzing
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