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Post by schultbear74 on Sept 4, 2007 18:53:13 GMT -6
My old high school head coach would practice his punt team as well when ahead by a bunch. Last week we were getting hammered by a team that was better than we were and they practiced their field goal rather than scoring again. We then got to practice our kick-off return again. Next week, it should be our best play.
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Post by airraider on Sept 4, 2007 19:20:00 GMT -6
i have run into this from time to time. I do not believe in running the ball, unless you make it so easy to run the ball. I am not going to stop throwing the ball if I am up 80-0. I will however be using backups. I am not going to tell my backups to not do what we do. it is unfair to tell those who have practiced all week to not run the offense they have practiced. I have run into these thin skinned coaches and if I am up by a large lead I will often punt the ball right back to them. let them run the clock out. the punt is a great offensive weapon. I have often punted on really rainy nights thus making the other team handle the ball. my college football coach would do this all the time. we were a wishbone/option team. on really bad raining days, we would punt the ball back to the other team. it was a way to gain field position with out having to handle the ball. Its not my skin I am worried about.. its the players who have worked really hard only to be embarrassed at the hands of a superior team. I would not be making as big of a deal out of it if it were their 2nd or 3rd teamers.. but to not pull your starters and throw 44 yard tds with less than 2 minutes to go up 50-0 is bush league and the guy needs his ass whipped.
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Post by dubber on Sept 4, 2007 20:02:49 GMT -6
I think Immanual Kant would have something to say on this subject:
It is not the actions, but the intentions driving the actions. (Is this coach vindictive, like airraider thinks this coach in question was?)
I'm sure if we played southlake carroll, they would score 140 points, even with the scrubs running the offense. I'm sure the HC isn't out to "get" our program.
I've sured played some teams that were ahead two scores with 10 seconds to go and the ball, and they are throwing fades into the endzone.
I've been in games where our JV is in, and their varsity is sending 9 every play. We put the varsity back in to keep our young kids from getting killed.
So.......................
like airraider said, it is not your own skin you need to worry about, but worry about if you are following the golden rule.
If you wouldn't want them to do something if the situations were reversed, then don't do it.
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Post by coachstrass on Sept 5, 2007 19:01:31 GMT -6
I agree with most of you... If the game is over, get those young guys time. Experience is key, and teams that win big often gain experience with their younger players for the following year. We are only allowed 5 varsity quarters for players, so if we put the jv in the third, we won't have a game on Monday due to not enough quarters. Provided the game is out of reach, our varsity (with a few exceptions) play 3 quarters then we sub at the start of the fourth, no matter the field position for the opposing team. If you are a spread team, throw the ball with your jv qb. He needs reps, the receivers need reps, the linemen need reps. If the opposing coach doesn't agree, so be it. Don't get me wrong, we are never a team to leave the starters in if the game is out of hand but I will end with one final saying:
"Get better or get used to it"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2007 19:11:09 GMT -6
With this issue, I basically agree with airman. I think you should get starters out of the game as soon as it is in hand. But, those young kids have a right to run the system, not just FB dive every play. He said it in a more controversial manner, but it's basically the Steve Spurrier philosophy.
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