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Post by emptybackfield on Nov 20, 2010 7:50:01 GMT -6
Anyone watch it last night? I don't have the NFL Network, but was wondering if it's worth getting my hands on at some point.
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Post by brophy on Nov 20, 2010 8:37:58 GMT -6
He is a coach's coach and a man's man.
I've never been big on Parcells (mystique), but the story (and method) is something every coach can relate to. What is nice is how open he actually has been to share his insight (about the game) throughout the past decades
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Post by cc on Nov 20, 2010 8:38:48 GMT -6
Yeah it was OK to pretty good.
Nothing earth shattering.
No great gleams into coaching genius moments that would make you go "oh that's what I need to do".
It was more about his NEED to coach that I think we can relate to but most don't understand.
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Post by brophy on Nov 21, 2010 21:45:57 GMT -6
As a non-teacher coach, I loved the show, especially the part where he says, "when you're out of the game, its like you've been out forever. When you get back in, its like you never left"
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Post by dania on Nov 22, 2010 9:36:57 GMT -6
parcells is what coaching is about. Getting you do play to the level you are more than capable of playing at, removing feelings and emotion from the process. the only thing that mattered was winning.And his teams always were physical, running football teams on offensens. AND that could stop the run and take away space on defense.
An absolute embodiment of what this profession and game is suppose to be about.
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Post by cc on Nov 23, 2010 0:33:31 GMT -6
I dunno. I hope it's about more than just winning....
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Post by coachbuck on Nov 23, 2010 2:59:33 GMT -6
I really enjoyed the documentary. Made me think about coach Dungy and how he was upset about all the cussing on hard knocks, wonder what he thinks about parcells. I also liked how he would break players down to get the most out of them.
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Post by coachdennis on Nov 23, 2010 8:28:47 GMT -6
I am more of a Bill Walsh guy than I am a Parcells guy. Having said that, I thought it was a fascinating look into Parcells' personality, and what makes him tick. I loved the insights from Belichick, who told you more about Parcells than he has ever said about himself, and from Rich Dalrymple, a guy who had Parcells' schtick figured out, but loved him anyway.
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Post by trojan on Nov 23, 2010 9:12:07 GMT -6
I dunno. I hope it's about more than just winning.... At HIS level, I would say that it is almost just about winning. As a guy who has lived most all my life in Cincinnati, watching the Bengals, I know what NOT winning is about. I've coached MS for a decade and now am coaching HS, and that isn't what it is all about here. Even so, I enjoyed the documentary and can appreciate his success. I agree that there wasn't much to "learn" from the film, but it was a fascinating biography. |
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Post by coachcb on Nov 23, 2010 10:19:36 GMT -6
The story involving Lawrence Taylor will always stick with me. Talk about a fantastic (albeit unorthodox) method of getting a guy fired up. It has to be incredibly difficult to motivate some of these professional athletes; Parcells really knew how to push a guy to play at his peak.
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Post by dania on Nov 23, 2010 10:39:11 GMT -6
I would remind you, that ultimately winning is a culmination of doing a lot of little thing right, things that do not show up on a stat sheet or on a scoreboard, things that all us coach would and should be proud of.
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Post by trojan on Nov 23, 2010 12:24:11 GMT -6
The story involving Lawrence Taylor will always stick with me. Talk about a fantastic (albeit unorthodox) method of getting a guy fired up. It has to be incredibly difficult to motivate some of these professional athletes; Parcells really knew how to push a guy to play at his peak. As a guy who does not have the budget of an NFL team, I was stuck on: "Did he really buy a ticket? Was it real? He knew Taylor wouldn't use it! What about that money? I couldn't do that!" A buddy of mine told me of a 60 Minutes episode about Parcells where the interviewer basically said, "It's JUST football, right?" and I guess that Parcells quickly replied with something like, "To you it's football, to me it's my life" with no smile on his face. |
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Post by coachcb on Nov 23, 2010 13:02:50 GMT -6
The story involving Lawrence Taylor will always stick with me. Talk about a fantastic (albeit unorthodox) method of getting a guy fired up. It has to be incredibly difficult to motivate some of these professional athletes; Parcells really knew how to push a guy to play at his peak. As a guy who does not have the budget of an NFL team, I was stuck on: "Did he really buy a ticket? Was it real? He knew Taylor wouldn't use it! What about that money? I couldn't do that!" A buddy of mine told me of a 60 Minutes episode about Parcells where the interviewer basically said, "It's JUST football, right?" and I guess that Parcells quickly replied with something like, "To you it's football, to me it's my life" with no smile on his face. Let's be honest here coach, Lawrence Taylor isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. I could easily see him taking it very, very seriously. LOL |
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Post by mental311 on Nov 27, 2010 13:13:45 GMT -6
I loved two lines......
Football isn't for the most well adjusted people
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Yelling gets more done in this game than speaking logically
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Post by tvt50 on Nov 27, 2010 18:13:00 GMT -6
This film is awesome! It is not just good. "God made you to be a football coach" and "Parcells you got to find a way to beat those guys". The Parcells and Lombardi comparisons were interesting.
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Post by cc on Nov 30, 2010 9:42:58 GMT -6
My favorite part was when he told a player something like "the tragedy here is that I have higher expectations for you than you do for yourself."
I think that's a big issue we face as high school coaches especially.
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Post by mojoben on Dec 1, 2010 7:25:41 GMT -6
Oh trust me, I do think any coach struggles with that, but more commonly at the lower levels. It doesn't always happen that way, but more times than not the coaches want it a lot worse or have higher expectations than the players. If you get a roster full of kids that want it, then you will likely be successful more times than not. The school I coach at now was where I went to high school at, so I know the mentality that has been set there for quite some time. Now I understand how much more those coaches wanted/expected then the kids here sadly.
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