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Post by phantom on Oct 19, 2010 9:23:29 GMT -6
Something else- the other guy needs to do his part. If you're down by 40 but you have your 1sts in and are still calling time-outs, chucking it, and blitzing it makes it a lot less likely that we'll call off the dogs. A few years ago we were up big and had the 2nds in but the other guys were sending full blitzes to "stuff the run" (which, believe me, the crew we had in the game was more than capable of stopping themselves). After a couple of series the HC got pissed and called end-around which scored a long TD.
Happens that their DC is a friend of mine. On Monday he complained about the play call. I asked him, "Why should we keep sending kids into that meatgrinder?". He stammered a little but didn't really have an answer.
Last week we were lucky enough to win 44-6. On the last series we had our 2nds in and were just running out the clock.In fact we had told the kids to stay in the huddle and let the clock run out. The other team's HC called a time-out. So, we sent in out kicker in to try a long FG (it was 4th down). He missed but if he hadn't would that have been "running it up"? Yeah, but whose fault would it have been?
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Post by k on Oct 19, 2010 11:00:23 GMT -6
Point being - teams can't "run the score up on you" unless you let them. Shut up and coach your team Just don't complain when the 15 year old boy you're abusing on the field decides to hit your QB late at the knees and end his career because you're throwing four verts with four seconds left up by three scores... When we took over the program we're at we were getting blown out by 50+ every week. A few years later our starters don't finish the first half because we're up big. The teams that ran it up on us intentionally are now the enemies of our program. In the long run it worked out for us because those first years we couldn't have beaten them. But them running up the score on us started a hatred that motivates our players the last couple years. So if we didn't risk injury to keep the kids in I'd advocate for returning the favor and hanging 100 on the teams that ran up the score on us. But we don't. We just let our JVs score on um. =)
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Post by falconattack on Oct 19, 2010 11:01:55 GMT -6
Quote that has helped me the most regarding this topic......
In one of his books, Lou Holtz talks about the time he accused Bobby Bowden of running up the score. Bobby simply replied, "Lou, it is not my job to stop my offense".
Since reading this, I have realized if I don't want the score run up on my team, I better prepare like the dickens to prevent it from happening.
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Post by brophy on Oct 19, 2010 11:58:14 GMT -6
Just don't complain when the 15 year old boy you're abusing on the field decides to hit your QB late at the knees and end his career because you're throwing four verts with four seconds left up by three scores... why wouldn't this still be true with the score being 0-0? Injuries happen.
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Post by coachguy83 on Oct 19, 2010 13:18:58 GMT -6
I have only had one team ever even try to run the score up and it ticked me off. We were down 39-8 in a freshmen game this season and we scored our only TD with a few seconds on the clock. We kick off and the other team gets the ball back with time to run one more play and we're expecting a knee. Instead they go five wide and try to throw for another score. It was a classless move and even their chain gang thought so because they apologized.
Sometimes you play games against weaker opponents and blow outs happen, but throwing a pass when you can take a knee and end the game in my opinion qualifies as running up the score.
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Post by 19delta on Oct 19, 2010 16:30:31 GMT -6
Just don't complain when the 15 year old boy you're abusing on the field decides to hit your QB late at the knees and end his career because you're throwing four verts with four seconds left up by three scores... why wouldn't this still be true with the score being 0-0? Injuries happen. Well...if the score is 0-0, there is a reason to still have your key players in the game. The game has not been decided at that point. If the game is at the point where it has been decided (whatever that may be), then protecting your key players should be an important consideration. For example, if your stud QB gets hurt in the 4th quarter of a close game, no one is going to question whether or not he should have been in the game. On the other hand, if your stud QB gets hurt in the 4th quarter of a lopsided blowout, then that is not a very sound coaching decision to have him in, IMO.
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Post by airman on Oct 19, 2010 18:09:55 GMT -6
When Lou Holtz was at William and Marry he was playing FSU and Bobby B did say that. The end of the story happened a few years later when W&M was winning by a couple td late in the game after a score Lou onside kicked and bobby was furious. Lou reminded him about what he said Bobby, It is not my job to stop my kick off team.
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Post by airman on Oct 19, 2010 18:15:28 GMT -6
Point being - teams can't "run the score up on you" unless you let them. Shut up and coach your team Just don't complain when the 15 year old boy you're abusing on the field decides to hit your QB late at the knees and end his career because you're throwing four verts with four seconds left up by three scores... When we took over the program we're at we were getting blown out by 50+ every week. A few years later our starters don't finish the first half because we're up big. The teams that ran it up on us intentionally are now the enemies of our program. In the long run it worked out for us because those first years we couldn't have beaten them. But them running up the score on us started a hatred that motivates our players the last couple years. So if we didn't risk injury to keep the kids in I'd advocate for returning the favor and hanging 100 on the teams that ran up the score on us. But we don't. We just let our JVs score on um. =) a kid who would do this was probably coached by John Kresse at Cobra Kai cobra-kai.com/SweepTheLeg.jpg
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Post by Wingtman on Oct 20, 2010 22:42:55 GMT -6
Just watched the film of the game in topic. Team A left the entire starting team in till it was 78-21.
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Post by coachwaz on Nov 1, 2010 6:01:34 GMT -6
This past Friday we played a team who beat us up pretty good last year 49-14 when they were loaded with D1 talent ( QB,RB,2 WRs and 2 OL all are either at D1 programs now or at JUCOS and will be most likely heading D1 shortly). While up 49-14 they ran an onside kick and proceed to chuck the ball into the endzone 2x with less than a minute left. Then an assistant coach taunted us after the post game handshake.. Fast forward to this year when the state semi finalist from last year are now 1-6 heading into our game. It was senior night for us and we rolled them. We gained 300 plus yards on the ground and just under 200 through the air. Our starting Z ran, caught and threw a TD. Anyway we are winning 47-20 with 1:28 left when we pick a ball off. We run Lead Z Iso (off of speed/fly motion) and it hits for 40 down to the 10. We then put our Sr Fb who had 0 carriers for the year at HB and let him run IZ. Great run dives for the endzone and comes up short. Now comes the great part..taking a knee at the 1..we could have punched it in topped 50 points and "run it up" like they were doing last year, but we took the knee. Our kids loved that more than scoring...best part was the same coach last year who last year was screaming at us to coach our kids better or they would blow us out again this year refused to shake any coaches hand this year...ah sweet revenge the right way...
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