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Post by futurecoach on Feb 26, 2008 11:57:39 GMT -6
I have seen a lot threads that talk about loyalty to the hc/kids/school/etc. What is loyalty, from all aspects, in your eyes?
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Post by brophy on Feb 26, 2008 12:25:32 GMT -6
ungrudgingly serving.....doesn't mean you can't disagree or see things differently, but the role is to be used for the greater good (with a resourceful attitude).
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Post by airman on Feb 26, 2008 12:31:37 GMT -6
I think be loyal is not being just a yes person. there are a lot of coaches who just want yes people as assistants. I think this sets up potential disaster to be honest.
I think assistant coaches need to understand there role completely and it is the duty of the head coach to completely communicate.
I look at being a head coach as chairman of the board. you can not do it all by yourself. you need to delagate to assistants.
we talk about having kids buy into a system, assistants need to be the same way. by giving them a stake in what is going on, you give them a reason to buy into the program.
every where I have been, it is assistant coaches who do not think the head coach is willing to listen is when you start getting coaches talking behind there back.
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Post by fatkicker on Feb 26, 2008 14:26:50 GMT -6
there is a fine line when talking about loyalty.... assistants need to voice opinions, even when they disagree with the header, but they must learn to not only accept but also respect the head coach's final decision when it doesn't match their own thoughts.....
in the words of coach boone (not exact but i'll quote anyway) "i've never seen an assistant coach's name in the paper for losing..."
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Post by phantom on Feb 26, 2008 18:24:32 GMT -6
there is a fine line when talking about loyalty.... assistants need to voice opinions, even when they disagree with the header, but they must learn to not only accept but also respect the head coach's final decision when it doesn't match their own thoughts..... in the words of coach boone (not exact but i'll quote anyway) "i've never seen an assistant coach's name in the paper for losing..." There's no fine line. Behind closed doors you make your feelings known and it can get fairly nasty. A decision will be made, though, and once the door opens you must be united even if you personally do not agree 100%. There's no place for egos or thin skins in this business. No place for yes-men, either. |
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Post by pegleg on Feb 26, 2008 19:43:10 GMT -6
i agree 100% with what brophy is saying.
i will add that loyalty is a 2 way street.
everyone talks about assistants being loyal to head coaches, but they have to be loyal too. the same ideas apply to both sides. but if it doesn't go both ways it won't work either.
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Post by coachweav88 on Feb 27, 2008 9:06:35 GMT -6
Loyalty is
1. Being someone that your team (coaches, players, school) can count on.
2. Not badmouthing members of your team (as mentioned earlier)
3. Sticking with your team throughout the season (I understand career changes)
I guess it boils down to being someone who makes a commitment to the team and follows through on that commitment.
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Post by gschwender on Feb 27, 2008 9:19:58 GMT -6
i agree 100% with what brophy is saying. i will add that loyalty is a 2 way street. everyone talks about assistants being loyal to head coaches, but they have to be loyal too. the same ideas apply to both sides. but if it doesn't go both ways it won't work either. Loyalty is a 2 way street just like respect. a hc cannot go around and blame things on assistants and bad mouth them when things are tough and then expect an assistant to be completely loyal. I think in this situation though that it is best for the assistant to just bite his toungue no matter how much you want to strike back b/c people will see the blame game for what it is eventually and the hc will not be there long. I've been through the situation and it is one of the toughest things to do in not saying anything in public, but it must be that way or you are no better. |
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Post by talexander on Mar 2, 2008 6:37:48 GMT -6
Loyalty:
-refer to H.C. philosophy
-use "We" and not "I" when talking
-being excited about program philosophy even if you feel it is not the best (Assistants should offer suggestions behind closed doors
-take on non-coaching duties
-not bad-mouth other coaches (unless to their dog)
-sell program to kids
"Non" Loyalty:(in our program, these things will result in termination for assistants)
Having hidden agenda (trying to get H.C. fired so they can take job)
skating out on non coaching duties
Teaching technique contrary to program philosophy
Talking about H.C./other coaches to parents/staff/player/anyone
Screwing around during practice like a kid/not giving best effort.
Loyalty is somewhat of a two way street, yes. However, as it is the H.C. ass when things go bad, the two way street is a little narrower for Assistants.
In a real job, being counterproductive to the bottom line gets you canned. Workers suggest their opinion, but it is the CEO who makes decisions.
Football is the same
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