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Post by cutty on Apr 27, 2006 17:34:07 GMT -6
Do you need big offensive lineman to have a zone running scheme?
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Apr 27, 2006 17:46:25 GMT -6
Not really. I don't think it matters. If you are a stretch team, then athletic linemen that need to just cover up defenders and run are more appropriate.
With inside zone it helps if you have some beef, but as long as the linemen get that 2nd step down quick and they play smart you'll be alright.
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Post by phantom on Apr 27, 2006 18:02:22 GMT -6
The Denver Broncos consistently have one of the best running games in the NFL with their zone-based offense while having one of the smallest OL. If you sceme it right you can also get 2, maybe 3 double teams. A few years ago I talked with a college OL coach who is now in the NFL. He said that one of the things that he liked about zone was that it was good for undersized OL because it utilized skeletal strength rather than muscular strength. The idea was that you didn't need movement. You just needed to cover them up, lock out, and get a stalemate.
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Post by coachcalande on Apr 27, 2006 18:03:12 GMT -6
what are the rules for a stretch scheme?
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Post by williamcrehan on Apr 27, 2006 18:07:48 GMT -6
Same as Zone, just technique is different. That is the beauty of a zone offense.
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Post by airman on Apr 27, 2006 18:31:52 GMT -6
what are the rules for a stretch scheme? it depends on if you pull uncovered lineman or if you zone stretch it. pulling uncovered lineman is the big thing now. the u of min has made it popular. they pull eslinger there all american center. in a pull scheme those who are covered there tech or base their tech the uncovered lineman pull. say you are in a 2 te set with oneback and 2 wides. you see a even front, the center, and tackles are uncovered. so if you were going to the right the te reaches as he is covered, the rt skip pulls, the rg reach or cut the 3 tech, teh center pulls and the backside either scoops or cuts. the aiming point is the butt of the te the center reads this as well.
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Post by saintrad on Apr 27, 2006 21:56:35 GMT -6
broncos use linemen that have a long reach (arm span) to create more leverage on the DL as they move during the zone.
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Post by coachjd on Apr 28, 2006 5:19:39 GMT -6
we have been running he zone schemes for 5+ years and we have had big kids who do well and not so well, and we have has small kids do well and not so well. Whitemike made a good statement on getting he 2nd step down. If the kids can get off the ball stay on the combo's until the Lber becomes a threat they will be good at the zone scheme. I really don't think the size of the kids matter.
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Post by coachveer on Apr 28, 2006 5:26:24 GMT -6
Big and slow do us no good. We like to take the back up LB'er and TE and turn them into lineman. We look for smart kids who have quicks first. If the kid can bench 300 great. But usually that kid is playing a 3 tech.
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Post by coachmacplains on Apr 28, 2006 14:00:22 GMT -6
Big and slow do us no good. We like to take the back up LB'er and TE and turn them into lineman. We look for smart kids who have quicks first. If the kid can bench 300 great. But usually that kid is playing a 3 tech. Ditto.
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