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Post by jlivey7 on Mar 6, 2008 9:17:36 GMT -6
I am about to graduate college, and am interested in getting into coaching. I think it is something I really want to do, but there a lot of things don't know and need to learn, especially in the X's and O's area. What kind of material would be good for me to learn just to get a good start on the basic things that everyone needs to know. Any suggestions?
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Post by pantherpride91 on Mar 6, 2008 9:42:05 GMT -6
As a young coach in the same position as you a couple years ago I have learned a few important things
1. If you are going to do it, than do it 100%. Get in the weight room, film room, meeting room and take in everything you can. I have found the best way of learning is by doing. You are going to screw up but what you learn off those mistakes is important
2. Read everything you can on every position, every offense, every defense, and every idea. The more you can diversify your knowledge the more attractive you will be for a job and better you understand coaching the game. If you think your a spread guy learn the double wing or wing-t. Do not pigeonhole yourself.
3. Get to clinics! this goes along with reading things. Just take it all in and ask questions and know there is not a stupid question. Every guy on this board and at clinics started out with little knowledge. If a guy thinks he is too good for you or talks down to you than you proably do not want to talk to him anyways. Also, you will find that every person out there has a different name for the exact same play. Learning what people call things is half the battle
4. Read all you can off this board. This site has been a godsend to young guys like me who want to take it all in. Of all the books and clinics I have been to this site has to rank up there at the top. You have state champs and guys who have been in coaching for 30 or 40 years. It is like being on a coaching staff of a 10000. You will find some really great guys on here that love the game and will do anything to help you out. Also, do not take offense to what guys post on here. Sometimes it is very hard to get across what you are saying on an internet post. While people may not always agree with you, there is not a person I have come across on here that is blatently rude and obnoxious.
5. One thing I was told when I first started by guy that has been in the coaching world forever is to remember there are only so many things you can do with 11 guys on a field. There is a relationship between every offense out there and football goes in a circle. Example being some of the single wing stuff we see becoming popular again. Also make sure you have fun and try not take things too seriously. Winning is great but that can not be the only thing you are in for.
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Post by coachorr on Mar 6, 2008 11:08:43 GMT -6
This goes along with what Coach C and Panther Pride stated. I have been coaching varsity football for ten years and I am still a mouse in the realm of giants on this board. The good thing is that many of these very skilled and qualifed coaches are willing to help and teach and I have come a long way in just a year by spending time on here READING and thinking about what is being said, and then at times posting a comment or a question. I think this is how we internalize information.
Here comes the crazy part. Go to Barnes and noble and look in the athletics section. I have found some great books in there. Okay, don't shoot me in the head, but I even found myself looking in the "Coaching Youth Football for Dummies" book, which creates two important points 1) I am a dummy and 2) there is no resource that should be overlooked at the onset.
Keep an open mind and remember that coaching is for the benefit of the kids and not for the inflation of our egos.
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Post by fatkicker on Mar 6, 2008 11:28:23 GMT -6
make sure to buy some black athletic shoes.....
you gotta look the part.......and black coaching shoes go with everything......and they'll never go outta style.....
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Post by onthemarkfootball on Mar 6, 2008 11:35:34 GMT -6
I would also add that you should look into getting your ASEP or NFHS Coaching Certification. Most states require it if you want to work with kids. Gives you a good base for coaching principals. I personally love Amazon.com for the book part of it. Getting a copy of some great books used at a great price is always worthwhile.
Plenty of the guys on the board have sites or share tons of information. I suggest getting an external hard drive to store and organize things that you run across and want to hang on to for future reference or development.
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Post by coachorr on Mar 6, 2008 11:40:13 GMT -6
Onthemark, the hard drive is a great suggestion. I never thought of that. I use a jump drive, but I do have a mis-organized collection of stuff between my home computers and my school computer. I think it is time to begin doing this.
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Post by tedseay on Mar 7, 2008 9:35:15 GMT -6
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Post by tedseay on Mar 7, 2008 9:37:46 GMT -6
I am about to graduate college, and am interested in getting into coaching. Any suggestions?
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Post by mwpilots on Mar 7, 2008 9:47:32 GMT -6
I would suggest that you start watching game film. It does not matter what level, just watch it and pick out things that you see like line play or defensive alignments. Start being a student of the game.
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Post by tyaronson on Mar 7, 2008 9:52:50 GMT -6
Coach: I agree with everyone here in what they say. I would add a couple of things. 1. Open your ears and keep your mouth shut at first. Just be like a sponge. 2. try and be as helpful as possible. 3. Don't complain 4. Take information from every coach you meet and try to apply it to yourself. 5. Learn how to deal with the kids, build relationships with them 6. JUST WORK HARD. I hope this helps Ty Aronson www.thecoachessource.com
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Post by dubber on Mar 7, 2008 14:39:46 GMT -6
Coach: I agree with everyone here in what they say. I would add a couple of things. 1. Open your ears and keep your mouth shut at first. Just be like a sponge. 2. try and be as helpful as possible. 3. Don't complain 4. Take information from every coach you meet and try to apply it to yourself. 5. Learn how to deal with the kids, build relationships with them 6. JUST WORK HARD. I hope this helps Ty Aronson www.thecoachessource.comperfect
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Post by phantom on Mar 7, 2008 15:30:09 GMT -6
I am about to graduate college, and am interested in getting into coaching. I think it is something I really want to do, but there a lot of things don't know and need to learn, especially in the X's and O's area. What kind of material would be good for me to learn just to get a good start on the basic things that everyone needs to know. Any suggestions? I'll echo those who say to learn as much basic football as you can. Learn the basics of offense, defense, and STs. Don't get married to a system or a position. As an entry-level coach, especially, you never know where or what you may be coaching. Heck, it's not just entry-level guys. Many if not most D.1 and NFL coaches have coached multiple positions. Wing T guru Dennis Creehan is a DC and has been for years. A few books that I think can help a young coach (or an old one) are: The Football Coaching Bible (AFCA), Coaching Team Defense by Fritz Shurmur, and Bear Bryant On Winning Football (if you can find it. It's out of print and, last I looked pretty expensive on Amazon. Your public library may have a copy. Don't steal the {censored}. Let others have a crack at it.).
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Post by gschwender on Mar 7, 2008 16:01:09 GMT -6
ASK QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY & HOW ESPECIALLY
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Post by airitout616 on Mar 7, 2008 17:34:24 GMT -6
hit up the Chat Room feature on this website some solid coaches talking scheme every day usually around 8pm eastern time there will be at least 1 to talk ball with.
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Post by thebulldog on Mar 9, 2008 9:31:58 GMT -6
I like what Pantherpride said, I would also add the following: My research has shown me that at every level there is a common thread with great coaches, most of them coached under a master coach.
Consequently, I would take the time and find a top notch coach OC or DC that you can learn from. Clinics only do so much .... you only get a small taste of what it is all about and generally you don't get any inside access. But still go to learn more and network.
Learn from a master and he can recommend you for jobs down the road, find a guy that is in it for the long haul and is really respected.
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Post by gac8666 on Mar 9, 2008 10:14:22 GMT -6
I am also a young coach an the head coach at my school, who was also my head coach when I played told me acouple thing.
1. It doesnt matter what you know, it matters what they do. I think thats the best coaching advice I have ever gotten. We all love scheming, and getting on the board and drawing up things. But if the kids dont do it, and dont learn it were not very good coaches.
2. Let your players dictate your system. If you have a fast qb and lots of WR dont be a 2 TE smash mouth team. If you have a big OL, 2 TE and no WR... dont go spread and throw it around. Everyone has their speciality but you have to be able to adapt to your personell and situation.
Hope it helps! Im still young and trying to figure this whole coaching thing out. But this site has been a HUGE resource for me and I love it. Thanks guys.
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Post by frost80 on Mar 10, 2008 18:18:28 GMT -6
A few books that I think can help a young coach (or an old one) are: The Football Coaching Bible (AFCA), Coaching Team Defense by Fritz Shurmur, and Bear Bryant On Winning Football (if you can find it. It's out of print and, last I looked pretty expensive on Amazon. Your public library may have a copy. Don't steal the {censored}. Let others have a crack at it.). great books! i cant wait to get my hands on the Bible i started coaching three years ago, my friend convinced me and i said ok, i'll try to make it once a week.. now i've taken over as hc and i think about coaching and my team pretty much every day.. i bought my first coachingbook last week, started with coaching football for dummies.. its a start at least, but when i'm done i will definitely give the bible a read thank you for the tip!
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Post by brophy on Mar 10, 2008 18:34:08 GMT -6
Keep it simple - how difficult do you want to make this?
1) Get "BUNCH ATTACK" by Andrew Coverdale & Dan Robinson -----this will teach you everything you need to know about designing an offense, how to attack a defense (how offensive guys look at defensive weaknesses).
2) Get "COACHING TEAM DEFENSE" by Fritz Shurmur -----this will teach you everything you need to know about defense. period.
3) Purchase a Darin Slack DVD -----watch Coach Slack teach football, THIS is the model of HOW TO COACH / HOW TO BE A COACH After reviewing these materials, you can then figure out what "system" you want to learn (none of these books a based soley on a 'system').
as langiappe, pick up "Developing an Offensive Game Plan" by Brian Billick to figure out how to put it all together (offensive/defensively) and be efficient as a coach
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