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Post by k on Feb 2, 2010 7:37:31 GMT -6
In CT you have to pass 4, at my school you can't fail a core course (a course you need to graduate) during the season or in the 4th quarter. Yeah we're tougher than the required too. At our school you need a 75 average for Q1 & 4. No "F"s Q1 & 4. My first year here we lost our starting RB to an F in Gym (had too many tardies thus auto failed). To those who say that higher standards don't matter I have seen the direct opposite. I watch kids who scrape by Q1 & Q4 tank Q2 & Q3.
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Post by coachinghopeful on Feb 2, 2010 14:03:48 GMT -6
I'm not entirely sure, but I don't believe TN has a GPA requirement. I think the rule says that if you fail 2 classes in a semester you're ineligible for the next. Period. Could be wrong on that.
Since our districts vary on the type of scheduling plans they use for classes, this is the same if you're on a block schedule (4 classes) or on the old standard year-long schedules (7 classes) that are being phased out or a "modified block" with 5-6 classes a semester.
If you pass all but 1 class a semester, even if it's with a bunch of D-s, you can still play. Some coaches, schools, and districts may voluntarily institute higher standards, of course.
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Post by coachguy83 on Feb 2, 2010 14:37:50 GMT -6
Some of the comments and resonses on this topic has really made me think. I am perfectly ok with increasing the GPA standard for athletes and students in activities because the theory behind it is that they are going to work harder if they have something to lose or gain. The thing that really got me thinking is that if we are allowing kids to graduate from high school with a .9 GPA what in the heck are we doing. It is no wonder we are 32 in the world in math, 12 in reading, and 10 in science. We don't need to raise the GPAs to be elgible to play sports we need to raise them to be elgible to graduate and base elgibility off of that.
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 6, 2010 23:05:13 GMT -6
State of VA -
If you are taking 7 classes - you must pass five with a D or better..
So essentially you could have the following
5 D's 2 F's
under a 1.0 (about a .8) according to VHSL you are eligible. I know other areas have different stipulations but these are the guidelines according to VHSL.
Pretty pathetic stuff....
Win at all cost!! Sad.
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Post by phantom on Feb 11, 2010 11:45:37 GMT -6
State of VA - If you are taking 7 classes - you must pass five with a D or better.. So essentially you could have the following 5 D's 2 F's under a 1.0 (about a .8) according to VHSL you are eligible. I know other areas have different stipulations but these are the guidelines according to VHSL. Pretty pathetic stuff.... Win at all cost!! Sad. Actually it's participate at all costs. Every school district in our region also has a policy of its own. In our system you need to have a 2.0 for the semester. You can use summer school to improve and there's a one-time waiver. That's pretty much the standard in this part of Virginia.
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Post by bgj on Feb 11, 2010 20:58:40 GMT -6
Our school you have to pass 5 classes. (and we have random drug testing but that is another topic for another day)
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Post by hamerhead on Feb 12, 2010 14:07:39 GMT -6
My school district does not have a policy independent of the state guideline, which says you must pass 7/8 classes the semester prior to the season.
My question is- how many of you impose stricter rules within your teams? I'm contemplating implementing a rule (should I be fortunate enough to get the HC job I'm working towards) of benching any kid who has an F in any class. Or, what I may do, is make them ineligible to practice if they are failing a class and tie it to my practice attendance policy. Two unexcused practices a week, you don't play.
Am I suicidal? Ambitious? Or just strict regarding grades?
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Post by blb on Feb 12, 2010 14:42:18 GMT -6
My school district does not have a policy independent of the state guideline, which says you must pass 7/8 classes the semester prior to the season. My question is- how many of you impose stricter rules within your teams? I'm contemplating implementing a rule (should I be fortunate enough to get the HC job I'm working towards) of benching any kid who has an F in any class. Or, what I may do, is make them ineligible to practice if they are failing a class and tie it to my practice attendance policy. Two unexcused practices a week, you don't play. Am I suicidal? Ambitious? Or just strict regarding grades? Why would you impose a football punishment for an academic issue? Are you trying to impress administrators with how tough you are or how much you care about education? Math teacher: "Your starting running back didn't turn in his assignment today!" Me: "Yeah, well, your Math student fumbled on the goal line last Friday!" Being punitive like that for something not related to football will turn kids off and hurt team unnecessarily. Bad idea. Now the unexcused absence thing whole 'nother issue.
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Post by hamerhead on Feb 12, 2010 15:06:35 GMT -6
It's a matter of personal taste. I'm not looking to pick a fight or open a different debate here about the role of football in high schools (which is what I'm talking about). If my supreme goal were to win football games, then you're absoloutely right.
However, it's not. My goal is to use football as an extension of the classroom and aid in the development of young men. Winning isn't the ultimate goal, we can be successfull and not win. The process of trying to win is a tool with which a variety of life lessons can be taught. Obviously winning is great, but it's not the be all end all in my program.
Now, maybe I'm off my rocker there, but to each his own. Assuming that premise, do you guys think my rule of "Failing a class = not practicing = not playing" is ridiculous?
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Post by blb on Feb 12, 2010 15:46:12 GMT -6
Admirable, hamer (sic), and I'm betting most everybody on this board has similar sentiments.
Personally I taught English for 19 years including AP American Lit, Mythology, Honors English 9. Several of my teams have earned All-State Academic mention.
Reality is your superiors, players' parents, and community will expect you to be a great human being, emphasize academics - and WIN, or you won't have that job very long.
You can stress achievement and learning in the classroom to your players without being the "hammer" and exceeding your school or state's established eligibility procedures.
I think your plan would engender a lot of resentment among those affected and be counterproductive.
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 18, 2010 21:24:09 GMT -6
I had tremendous success with this approach at a school. Team GPA went from a 1.7 - 2.6.
It worked very well for us on and off the field.
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Post by coachdjenkins on Feb 22, 2010 19:03:25 GMT -6
Doing my graduate research project on this topic. Amazing how much misinformation on the topic there really is. The majority of states do not mandate academic requirements and leave it to the Local Education Authority. While Louisiana is terrible in most studies on education, even the old plan of pass 5 and maintain a 1.5 was one of the few states that had a rule. At one time was the only state with both a minimum number of classes to pass and a GPA. The states that do have state mandated requirements have one or the other. I believe"Education Reform" is always talked about but Graduation requirements are in need of changes.
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Post by jlenwood on Feb 22, 2010 19:28:05 GMT -6
Our school is a 2.0. If you fall below that you can still play between 1.6 and 2.0 by going to a study table every day to bring up the grade.
Also, all freshman atheletes have to attend study table regardlesss of grades the first quarter to get used to the HS load and requirements
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