erat76
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Post by erat76 on Nov 24, 2009 13:53:53 GMT -6
Which clinic would you be more likely to attend. Glaizer or Nike COY? Or would you rather save your money and attend a college during spring practice and watch some ideas put into action. Which one would you as a coach get the most useful knowledge from?
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Post by kylem56 on Nov 24, 2009 14:28:03 GMT -6
Glazier and Nike COY's are both pretty good. It realy just depends on whos speaking and what youre into. I would much rather save my money though and go spend a couple days visiting a college during spring ball. Some colleges will let you sit in on meetings, watch film, and sit down and talk with ya. Ive always gained much more out of visting/meeting with a college coach during spring ball than any clinic. You can get more in depth information.
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hoard
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Post by hoard on Nov 24, 2009 15:17:14 GMT -6
I agree with Coach Kyle. Find a college where you can sit down with the coaches beforehand and learn from them. Try and sit in on coaches meetings, installation meetings, and watch spring practice to see it in motion.
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Post by superpower on Nov 25, 2009 10:53:53 GMT -6
I get more out of CoachHuey.com than I ever have gotten from the big clinics.
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Post by knighter on Nov 25, 2009 11:12:09 GMT -6
I go to a big clinic for fun and to network. I go to a small clinic to learn. I learn more on this board than at any of the big clinics combined. I echo Superpower's thoughts.
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Post by fbcoach74 on Nov 25, 2009 11:20:12 GMT -6
I go to the Glazier clinic every year. I enjoy listening to the big time coaches, but i tend to get a lot more benefit from listening to the small college and high school coaches.
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Post by davishfc on Nov 29, 2009 10:46:54 GMT -6
We have consistently gone to Frank Glazier Mega Clinics in the past and we'll do so again this year. Mega Clinics IMO are outstanding because with their wide-range of topics, you have so many opportunities to learn a variety of aspects of football. In addition, their speakers are from a variety of levels youth through professional. I think it's great to have high school coaches who are having success in a different state with a particular system they have developed come to my home state and let loose with information. They don't care because nobody from where they play has traveled to hear them. Maybe they do but in my experience with Glazier the high school coaches have been fantastic as well as the college coaches. We, as a staff, went to one Nike COY Clinic a few years ago. It was good but the topics were limited. I think they could do that because they felt like they provided their big names. It was interesting listening to Urban Meyer in person but I would've much rather have been at a clinic where there were more topics to choose from. We also went to the U of M clinic last year during spring ball. I think these clinics are the best because you get the opportunity to hear the coaches speak about what they teach but then you get the opportunity at practice to watch them teach it. I think the only thing better than this would be to see a successful high school somewhere in the south conduct their spring ball practices.
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Post by glazierclinics on Dec 1, 2009 8:32:44 GMT -6
Thanks everyone for all the kind words about the Glazier Clinics! We work hard to build great clinics. Check out the speaker schedules in your city and let me know what topics/coaches you'd like to see more/less of... www.glazierclinics.com |
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lyons
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Post by lyons on Dec 1, 2009 11:32:38 GMT -6
I bought the staff season pass for glazier. What is great about that is the online stuff you get, I will always do the glazier for that reason.
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Post by jrarick on Dec 1, 2009 12:09:47 GMT -6
Regardless of your clinic choice there are really some things that make it just a little more meaningful. 0) Get some sleep the night before so you don't fall asleep during the clinic. 1) Sit up front. 2) Ask questions - especially the easy ones. Clinic speakers don't mind that at all. 3) Stick around afterwards and ask one more question. 4) Look to see who is paying close attention - and ask them questions afterwards. I don't see a lot of speakers each year - but I suck every bit of learning out of the ones I do see. Jack Rarick Holt Football www.coachsvideoassistant.com |
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Post by glazierclinics on Dec 2, 2009 9:21:55 GMT -6
at the risk of sounding like a salesman... its $99 for an individual or $299 for an entire staff. That gets access to ALL 36 clinics, plus tons of coaches choice videos online, huge database of clinic notes and powerpoints, live online webinars and exhibitor discounts from over 25 football vendors. all info, speaker schedules and everything is at www.glazierclinics.comalso, live webinars/clinics start next week and are totally free throughout december. here's the schedule of speakers: megaclinic.com/documents/Live_Online_Clinics_recap.pdf |
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Dec 2, 2009 10:30:05 GMT -6
The old saying is that you go to Glazier to learn, you go to Nike to have fun. I don't hold to that though, I think they are both great. I've learned a lot at both.
Sometimes you can go to clinic several years in a row and get nothing much, then you'll go to one that changes your world.
You never know.
But you'll get nothing if you don't at least go.
OJW
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kahok
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Post by kahok on Dec 2, 2009 14:49:49 GMT -6
I go to a big clinic for fun and to network. I go to a small clinic to learn. I learn more on this board than at any of the big clinics combined. I echo Superpower's thoughts. Cosign the above. Spring practices to learn along with small clinics. Go to out of town clinics to catch up with old teammates, friends etc. Also to drink beer without the wives nagging is a huge plus. |
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 2, 2009 19:20:27 GMT -6
Honestly, Id rather get a couple of new books and dvd sets and spend more time on the forums.
But - I once attended a one hour and thirty minute clinic lecture on "power football" that seemed to change me as a coach that fast.
Usually when I go to a clinic, I end up buying books and dvds from the vendors and spend more time with my nose in that book than listening to lectures. I like clinics though but I dont like taking notes much.
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Post by kylem56 on Dec 2, 2009 22:35:44 GMT -6
another thing I have gotten into lately is saving up some $ and buying whole clinic DVD sets. I recently purchased the 2009 Ohio HS Football Coaches Association Clinic DVD set. $100 bucks but it was 9 discs and over 30 hours of clinic footage. 30 different speakers on a ton of topics. It is always nice to fast forward through some of the lame introductions or be able to pause and rewind to make sure you get everything wrote down. Also it is nice to have for those of you who have a little too much "adult kool aid" and don't make it to all the lectures.
To glazierclinics: I wish the Frank Glazier-Mega Clinics would start recording their clinics and selling them on DVD. I know they offer powerpoint presentations and stuff on their website but that doesnt always cover every bit of info the speaker talks about. It would be pretty cool to have the ability to buy dvd sets of clincs from cities you just wouldn't have the $ or time to attend. Plus some clinics run on the same day in different cities so it would be great way to not miss out on the topics you realy want to see
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Post by phantom on Dec 3, 2009 5:28:12 GMT -6
Which clinic would you be more likely to attend. Glaizer or Nike COY? Or would you rather save your money and attend a college during spring practice and watch some ideas put into action. Which one would you as a coach get the most useful knowledge from? It depends where you are during in your career. Early in my career I loved the Nikes and Glaziers. I knew nothing so being exposed to people like Sid Gillman, Bud Carson, and Buddy Ryan was fantastic. I still like that every now and then. It seems, though, that a valuable part of the big clinics is being lost. The social was a great place to network and talk real football. Some big clinics don't even have them now, though (unless you consider being invited to the hotel bar to buy $5 beers to be a social). Visits are probably more valuable learning tools if you know specifically what you're looking for. In my experience the "visit" experience can vary wildly. Some guys give you the run of the place- talk to the coaches, watch tape, sit in on meetings, etc. Some will give you an hour. To answer the question- do both if you can. |
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 3, 2009 5:36:11 GMT -6
Ill tell ya whatd be awesome.
Every coach here get in front of a video camera and white board and simply tape himself talking about what they do, how they do it and why they do it, how to practice and drill what they do, how to trouble shoot what they do and add some film clips....than we have a major tape trade. Id be into that. of course i have a ton of 46 and dw footage to trade and clinic film.
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Post by glazierclinics on Dec 3, 2009 17:58:18 GMT -6
another thing I have gotten into lately is saving up some $ and buying whole clinic DVD sets. I recently purchased the 2009 Ohio HS Football Coaches Association Clinic DVD set. $100 bucks but it was 9 discs and over 30 hours of clinic footage. 30 different speakers on a ton of topics. It is always nice to fast forward through some of the lame introductions or be able to pause and rewind to make sure you get everything wrote down. Also it is nice to have for those of you who have a little too much "adult kool aid" and don't make it to all the lectures. To glazierclinics: I wish the Frank Glazier-Mega Clinics would start recording their clinics and selling them on DVD. I know they offer powerpoint presentations and stuff on their website but that doesnt always cover every bit of info the speaker talks about. It would be pretty cool to have the ability to buy dvd sets of clincs from cities you just wouldn't have the $ or time to attend. Plus some clinics run on the same day in different cities so it would be great way to not miss out on the topics you realy want to see The real issue is that most speakers will not “give everything they have” if they are being filmed. They know their competitors could take the film home and use it against them. This is one of the great advantages of clinics as opposed to buying tapes and books. Our guys tend to not hold back. |
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Post by wingtol on Dec 3, 2009 18:13:41 GMT -6
at the risk of sounding like a salesman... its $99 for an individual or $299 for an entire staff. That gets access to ALL 36 clinics, plus tons of coaches choice videos online, huge database of clinic notes and powerpoints, live online webinars and exhibitor discounts from over 25 football vendors. all info, speaker schedules and everything is at www.glazierclinics.comalso, live webinars/clinics start next week and are totally free throughout december. here's the schedule of speakers: megaclinic.com/documents/Live_Online_Clinics_recap.pdfI just looked at the webinars and saw the first one was with Wade Salem, if any of you who have access to the webinars I would highly recommend watching and listening to Wade. Wade and his coaching 4 life program have had a huge impact on our program, not to sound corny but it's a great x's and o's for life. He started in our area and is a frequent visitor to our practices and is outstanding. Don't miss him if you have access to the webinars. |
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 3, 2009 20:21:40 GMT -6
another thing I have gotten into lately is saving up some $ and buying whole clinic DVD sets. I recently purchased the 2009 Ohio HS Football Coaches Association Clinic DVD set. $100 bucks but it was 9 discs and over 30 hours of clinic footage. 30 different speakers on a ton of topics. It is always nice to fast forward through some of the lame introductions or be able to pause and rewind to make sure you get everything wrote down. Also it is nice to have for those of you who have a little too much "adult kool aid" and don't make it to all the lectures. To glazierclinics: I wish the Frank Glazier-Mega Clinics would start recording their clinics and selling them on DVD. I know they offer powerpoint presentations and stuff on their website but that doesnt always cover every bit of info the speaker talks about. It would be pretty cool to have the ability to buy dvd sets of clincs from cities you just wouldn't have the $ or time to attend. Plus some clinics run on the same day in different cities so it would be great way to not miss out on the topics you realy want to see The real issue is that most speakers will not “give everything they have” if they are being filmed. They know their competitors could take the film home and use it against them. This is one of the great advantages of clinics as opposed to buying tapes and books. Our guys tend to not hold back. eh, I gotta disagree on some level here. what they hold back on is what makes it all work and they say " you can find that information in my manual and on my dvds" I think, and i really believe this, the BIGGER BENEFIT to purchasing a packaged dvds/books written by one "guru" or another is that you get the whole system, terminology etc and get to know all of the moving parts in much greater detail than you get at any clinic where the coach is goign to try and teach his offense or defense, or a small part of it in a couple of hours. when I do my 46 clinics, we start at 9 am and at 4pm we are ending and basically have run out of time with more material to cover because to really KNOW a system means really getting into details that you arent getting in a cookie cutter 2 hour session with an overhead, a few jokes, introductions, some short video clips and stories. I think having game film to break down and being able to play and rewind etc is better. that doesnt mean I dont enjoy the glazier and nike shows, I do , love them. Just for me personally, id rather build the library and have to agree with the others, you all need to allow attendees to video tape. we do. |
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Post by juancsusb on Dec 5, 2009 13:34:43 GMT -6
The best clinics are the ones that are specific to the scheme that you run. Meeting coaches that run your specific scheme have always helped me more.
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Post by coachbdud on Dec 5, 2009 14:37:41 GMT -6
I went to a glazier clinic last year because they have a great staff rate. But i was very dissapointed... There is a good variety of stuff, but nothing i was too interested in. I dont feel like i got anything out of this clinic. The other coaches i was with were so dissapointed they spent half the time hanging out in their hotel room. I continued to go the presentations but after the fact i wish i had just hung out with them lol
COY is coming to my town this year so i will definitely be going. Literally the hotel is less than 10 minutes from my house. I know the clinic director (coaches at our rival school) and he has told me whats going to be at this years clinic and i am excited.
Perhaps the other glazier clinics are better, i have heard good things about them. But the one i went to was not good
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Post by glazierclinics on Dec 8, 2009 12:41:56 GMT -6
Coachbdud, which clinic did you go to last year? Santa Clara? we're returning to Santa Clara thi year...What can we do in the future to make your clinic experience better?
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Post by coachbdud on Dec 8, 2009 13:53:52 GMT -6
Coachbdud, which clinic did you go to last year? Santa Clara? we're returning to Santa Clara thi year...What can we do in the future to make your clinic experience better? Yes santa clara, I love the staff rate, i think it was like 300 bucks for a whole staff which is an awesome price... I just didnt like the speakers. There were a couple who were ok, but in some i was almost falling asleep. The other coaches i went with just stopped attending the presentations after a while and just hung out, used it for networking and BSing. I kept going to presentations, to get my money's worth. But the speakers/topics just didnt do much for me |
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Post by glazierclinics on Dec 8, 2009 14:27:53 GMT -6
understandable. we try to build our clinics based on topic, not be speaker. We're based out of colorado and some topics are super hot in some areas and some aren't. You know the area better than I do. What are common schemes/topics that coaches would be interested in in the bay area? Or what local/regional speakers would you like to see.
I tried to get Huey to speak at one of our texas clinics but he didn't want to. i told him that whatever the subject was, the room would probably be packed!
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Post by coachks on Dec 8, 2009 14:57:23 GMT -6
My biggest issue is that they've had the same topics for years now.
We usually go to 2 or 3 a year (A local one or two, then a nice road trip). The issue is every clinic has the same topics. Spread offense (various forms), QB fundamentals and the 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 defense.
I'd really like to see some flexbone stuff, wishbone stuff, Power-T, Split Back Veer and Double Wing. Sessions on plays like Belly, Belly sweep, Double Dive, Down, trap and other "old" plays. There are 10 sessions on the zone run game and 4-4 defense, great if you are interested in those schemes....otherwise you are hoping that the one speaker on "your" topic is prepared and has something more than a cookie cutter presentation. Or better yet, doesn't just skip the presentation (Brian Kelly last year in Indianapolis) or leave 10 minutes into it (Some DB coach in Cleveland 2 years ago).
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Post by coachbdud on Dec 9, 2009 1:09:34 GMT -6
understandable. we try to build our clinics based on topic, not be speaker. We're based out of colorado and some topics are super hot in some areas and some aren't. You know the area better than I do. What are common schemes/topics that coaches would be interested in in the bay area? Or what local/regional speakers would you like to see. I tried to get Huey to speak at one of our texas clinics but he didn't want to. i told him that whatever the subject was, the room would probably be packed! i love fly stuff... we are fly, and a lot of teams here are fly or at least run a small fly series. McElroy gave a talk on the fly but i just wasnt a fan of him as a speaker. Im getting tired of seeing so much 3-5-3 and 3-3-5 stuff. I want more individual position and drill learning. not as much scheme. Scheme is dependant on what you run, where as DL fundamentals can be used in any scheme i saw stubblefield talk about Dl and he didnt teach anything... the room was packed but he never went over a single drill... he talked about his own team, a few kids he had, shared some stories, and then we watched some of his NFl highlights and listened to him talk about how he made the play... The BEST speaker i have ever heard is Mark Speckman... doesnt even have to be talking about fly stuff.. i could listen to him talk about architecture and id still be intrigued |
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Post by dacoachmo on Dec 9, 2009 6:29:25 GMT -6
I went to a glazier clinic last year because they have a great staff rate. But i was very dissapointed... There is a good variety of stuff, but nothing i was too interested in. I dont feel like i got anything out of this clinic. The other coaches i was with were so dissapointed they spent half the time hanging out in their hotel room. I continued to go the presentations but after the fact i wish i had just hung out with them lol COY is coming to my town this year so i will definitely be going. Literally the hotel is less than 10 minutes from my house. I know the clinic director (coaches at our rival school) and he has told me whats going to be at this years clinic and i am excited. Perhaps the other glazier clinics are better, i have heard good things about them. But the one i went to was not good Did your all of your staff fill out the eval forms and suggest topics and speakers? |
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