timwesz
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Post by timwesz on Oct 17, 2009 7:34:03 GMT -6
Just finished the '09 season and looking to 2010. The last 2 yrs. I've been a DC on ou lightweight level. Next season I'll be moving up to our JV level as a HC. I wanted to get some thoughts about the Off. side of the ball. Is it better to stick to one type of Off. or incorporate several Off. I'm gonna have the group of kids I had in '08. This group will have plenty of speed and football savy. Just thinkin' ahead, Thanks...
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Post by utchuckd on Oct 17, 2009 9:33:50 GMT -6
What age group coach? Most people around here will advise do one thing and do it well. Pick a series based offense you like and stick with it.
Personally I've found if I get a bunch of athletes there's a big temptation to do a lot of stuff with them. But I've learned if you KISS (keep it simple) for them it gives them the freedom to go out and be athletes. JMO.
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Post by timwesz on Oct 17, 2009 13:52:48 GMT -6
The age group would be 11,12, and some 13yr. olds. That's the way I was leaning. It is a big temptation when you get a group of talented kids.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 17, 2009 18:27:24 GMT -6
Just finished the '09 season and looking to 2010. The last 2 yrs. I've been a DC on ou lightweight level. Next season I'll be moving up to our JV level as a HC. I wanted to get some thoughts about the Off. side of the ball. Is it better to stick to one type of Off. or incorporate several Off. I'm gonna have the group of kids I had in '08. This group will have plenty of speed and football savy. Just thinkin' ahead, Thanks... Definitely better to stick with one type of offense at a time. I could see just 2 exceptions of opposite sorts. One exception would be if you were in a highly competitive league, had a deep roster, and plenty of assistant coaches. Then you could have entire separate squads running 2 offenses substituted situationally. This would have to be very rare for youth football! The other is also not really a likely youth football situation, but one that I've seen recommended to an interscholastic program that was in emergency condition. It involved a change of plan, transitioning to another offense in mid-season in preparation for the following season.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Oct 29, 2009 8:07:38 GMT -6
What does your local varsity run? A great tool would be to talk to those guys since you have kids in what... 7th-8th grade? It helps the local HS guys and in turn, they're more likely to help you. Ask for film cut-ups, a simplified playbook, the whole playbook, and see if you can't go to the clinics with them, that's what I'd do.
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Post by coachdoug on Oct 29, 2009 9:08:28 GMT -6
In general I agree with the other posters. One thing to be aware of though, is that it is NOT the athleticism of your players that will determine how much you can with them, it is their football IQ. If you have a bunch of great athletes that don't really understand football and have a hard time learning new concepts, you're probably never going to be able to completely install one scheme, let alone get to multiple schemes. However, if you have a somewhat less athletic bunch, but they understand the game and pick up new things quickly, you may be able to do a little more.
We actually do some multiple stuff (we have a spread to run package, a zone run package, and a double-tight power wishbone package for our MPP group), and we've had some success with it, but it's not for the feignt of heart. It wasn't my preference, but it's what our head coach wants to do. We struggle early in the season offensively, but now we're getting pretty potent as we hit the playoffs. Even though we're somewhat multiple, each package is very simple, so it's not really that much for the kids to know, but it puts a ton of pressure on the defense - they have to prepare for a bunch of different stuff and we make sure we spread the ball around so the defense can't focus on just taking away one weapon.
Having said that, we have an unusually bright group of kids, and I'm still not sure we wouldn't have done better with a single package. I wouldn't advise going multiple for the vast majority of youth teams. Like others have said, find one series-based system that you can teach and believe in, then rep the heck out of it.
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