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Post by gameface on Sept 24, 2009 14:25:21 GMT -6
I had to be out of town for my practice on Tuesday. One of my assistants tells me last night at practice that his kid was knocked out in a hitting drill at the practice I missed. He says he is okay. Does anybody have any experience with concussions. He didn't go to a doctor. I didn't let him hit last night and plan on talking to him about it tonight. Our opponent isn't that good this week and we shouldn't need him. Just looking for input. Thanks
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Post by coachdoug on Sept 24, 2009 15:40:28 GMT -6
Any time a player loses consciousness (even for a few seconds), is disoriented (i.e. doesn't know who is he is, where he is, or when it is), or becomes nauseaus after being hit, you potentially have a very serious situation and that player should be taken to the hospital ASAP. Since that didn't happen, you shouldn't let this player back on the practice field until he sees a doctor and that doctor gives him written clearance to play.
In 1999, I had a player on one of my teams take a pretty nasty hit at practice and he came up loopy and out of sorts. After about 2 minutes he seemed fine and insisted that he could go back into practice. I thought about it for a second (he really did seem to be over whatever happened to him and seemed 100% fine), but then I thought better of it, called the ambulance and had them take him to the hospital to be checked. It turned out he had a pretty severe concussion - he was still getting nauseous (and actually throwing up) over THREE WEEKS later. It was about 5 weeks before he got medical clearance to go back on the field. I shudder to think what might have happened if I had let that kid talk me into going back on the practice field that night.
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Post by gameface on Sept 28, 2009 9:59:02 GMT -6
We ended up sitting him out, I didn't even have to have a talk with the dad/AC. When I got to the game he wasn't dressed. I told him I though that would be the best thing to do especially when we wouldn't need him for the game. We still won 20-0. thanks for the response.
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Post by utchuckd on Sept 28, 2009 11:06:59 GMT -6
I appreciate the way you handled it, and not saying you would have been any different, but, just for discussion's sake, this: especially when we wouldn't need him for the game. We still won 20-0. shouldn't really be a consideration should it?
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Post by coachbigb on Oct 8, 2009 18:22:14 GMT -6
I'm a medic and this kind of injury shoul be taken serious. My God son had a helmet to helmet last weekend. He didn't look right to me and I told his father to have him seen at the local E/R my wife work at. His father felt he was fine and down played it. His son was light headed 4 hours after the hit and began to have headaches. I then informed his mother who's a RN to have him seen. He had a CT done and was DX with a concussion. He was taken out of this weeks game and been under meds since that day. Now as of today he is still having these headaches. When you have any neck, back, or head injury you need to treat as if it's a worst case situation. Many down play stuff and in the end the kid suffers. His father called me today and thanked me for seeing something he should had seen when this injury occured. This is my 2 cents. Coach Hayes I had to be out of town for my practice on Tuesday. One of my assistants tells me last night at practice that his kid was knocked out in a hitting drill at the practice I missed. He says he is okay. Does anybody have any experience with concussions. He didn't go to a doctor. I didn't let him hit last night and plan on talking to him about it tonight. Our opponent isn't that good this week and we shouldn't need him. Just looking for input. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 20:18:00 GMT -6
I'm a medic and this kind of injury shoul be taken serious. My God son had a helmet to helmet last weekend. He didn't look right to me and I told his father to have him seen at the local E/R my wife work at. His father felt he was fine and down played it. His son was light headed 4 hours after the hit and began to have headaches. I then informed his mother who's a RN to have him seen. He had a CT done and was DX with a concussion. He was taken out of this weeks game and been under meds since that day. Now as of today he is still having these headaches. When you have any neck, back, or head injury you need to treat as if it's a worst case situation. Many down play stuff and in the end the kid suffers. His father called me today and thanked me for seeing something he should had seen when this injury occured. This is my 2 cents. Coach Hayes I had to be out of town for my practice on Tuesday. One of my assistants tells me last night at practice that his kid was knocked out in a hitting drill at the practice I missed. He says he is okay. Does anybody have any experience with concussions. He didn't go to a doctor. I didn't let him hit last night and plan on talking to him about it tonight. Our opponent isn't that good this week and we shouldn't need him. Just looking for input. Thanks I was a medic myself, he's absolutely right...there's a little known condition known as post secondary conncussion syndrome that can result in death. I would've not nly sat him, but not let him return until he brought back a doctors note.
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Post by spurred on Oct 11, 2009 20:26:22 GMT -6
I actually have a question, if we have a player that we are watching, what do we look for? I thought some of the symptoms of a concussion were dilated pupils, nausea, disorientation, headaches and loss of some motor skills...am I missing anything else? I know if I had something serious happen to a kid, and it was something I could have prevented I wouldn't ever be able to coach again
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2009 10:59:32 GMT -6
Unconscioussness, is the most obvious. Sometimes in serious cases seizures can ensue. All of the above you are definite signs of a concussion, though headahes are common, primarily in kids not used to wearing a helmet. However all should put an immediate end to their participation. We always ask, "did you black out?"...an "I don't know" = yes.
Anything questionable we sit for a minimum of one quarter, usually I pull them from the lineup.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Oct 12, 2009 11:49:15 GMT -6
I recall a story about a kid getting a mild concussion. Remember its a bruise on the brain...swelled, kid died.
dont take any chances and always get a docs note clearing kid for return to action. many times symptoms return.
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Post by blb on Oct 12, 2009 11:57:05 GMT -6
Rich Rodriguez said today at his presser that QB Tate Forcier had a "slight" concussion Saturday night at Iowa that he (Rodriguez) didn't know about, that "these concussions are day-to-day," and Forcier would start Saturday if healthy.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 12, 2009 18:36:20 GMT -6
I actually have a question, if we have a player that we are watching, what do we look for? I thought some of the symptoms of a concussion were dilated pupils, nausea, disorientation, headaches and loss of some motor skills...am I missing anything else? I know if I had something serious happen to a kid, and it was something I could have prevented I wouldn't ever be able to coach again If you're good at this sort of thing, an instructor can teach you in an hour or so how to do a cranial nerve exam -- but it won't do you that much good. The reason is that if you don't find any impairment, that doesn't mean it won't show up within a few hours from intracranial bleeding. The signs and symptoms of the concussion itself are fleeting. As others have mentioned, the commonest is momentary unconsciousness. Once in rugby practice I blacked out for about half a second from a hit to the chin. I was still on my feet when I regained it. That sort of momentary KO is not enough to produce brain damage. If it's long enough to produce a knockdown, it is. One symptom that hasn't been mentioned by others is flashes of light. That can be either from the brain or detachment of a retina.
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